On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, Derek Martin wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, Dave Gillett wrote:
>
> > On 21 Jul 99, at 18:04, Matthew G . Harrigan wrote:
> >
> > > Last I checked, utilizing things such as port scanners, tcp fingerprinting
> > > tools, and the like are not illegal, because there is no way to
> > > disseminate legitimate system administration techniques (you'll notice that
> > > enterprise network management packages which do network discovery utilize
> > > all of the above.) from actual penetration attempts, unless the activity
> > > yields someone actually gaining user level access to a said networked
> > > device. I would find it hard to believe that someone could be prosecuted
> > > based on something like an nmap scan.
> >
> > This is like saying that car theft can't be illegal because it would
> > prevent anyone from ever driving! [Clue: It becomes criminal when you don't
> > have the owner's permission....]
>
> Did you obtain the permission to send mail to this mailing list from the
> owner of the machine and network that it resides on? NO? YOU MUST BE
> BREAKING THE LAW by sending your mail then... by your definition.
>
Actually, by joining the list, did they not get permission?
Thanks,
Ron DuFresne
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