"Paul D. Robertson" wrote:
> 
> The salient point was "applications don't automatically become immune"- to
> my mind, Telnet and FTP are designed with URG data in mind, so sending
> them URG data at the appropriate place in the protocol isn't really a big
> deal.  Sending or stripping URG data based on port is only somewhat
> equivalent.

Ah, faithful to the topic, eh? :)

I was more on the line of "the problems of URG in general", but mkay:
- I install unusual app X that your proxy firewall of choice 
  has zero support for.
- I setup up a plug to it. 
- You don't get to whine about plug-gw being a circuit relay 
  rather than a "true" (hehe :)) proxy.

Or, better yet:
- I install an FTP server from a vendor that cares more about 32K color 
  icons and drag-and-drop than RFCs and "that weird fourth parameter
  to select()".
- I allow the world to connect to the server through an FTP ALG.

I believe my point is valid, as stated. (The first one at least for 
proxy firewalls that have a plug-gw that relays urgent data. But of
this I know little. If you know more, I'm listening.)

Now for the meatier subthreads.
(Dzang, this topic is splitting off into more branches than the
linux kernel)

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