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At 02:19 PM 4/18/2002 -0500, Noonan, Wesley wrote:
>The of course you have this:
>
>http://news.theolympian.com/stories/20020304/Business/28667.shtml
>
>
>Wes Noonan, MCSE/MCT/CCNA/CCDA/NNCSS
>Senior QA Rep.
>BMC Software, Inc.
>(713) 918-2412
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>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Brian Ford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 12:11
> > To: Chris Kirschke
> > Cc: Clifford Thurber; Noonan Wesley; Mikael Olsson;
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Digital Legends (was: RE: Microsoft ISA server (Was: Re:
> > Replacingmy old PIX Classic))
> >
> > Chris,
> >
> > Gee whiz.  Maybe I missed it.  Where does it say that QNX is used in
> > IOS?  Or PIX?
> >
> > It's not.
> >
> > Liberty for All,
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > At 10:01 AM 4/18/2002 -0700, Chris Kirschke wrote:
> > >http://www.qnx.com/news/pr/may18_98-cisco.html
> > >
> > >Chris Kirschke
> > >Lead Engineer
> > >Astreya Partners, Inc
> > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >408-790-5900 xt 531
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Clifford Thurber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 9:36 AM
> > >To: Brian Ford; Noonan Wesley; 'Mikael Olsson'
> > >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: Re: Digital Legends (was: RE: Microsoft ISA server (Was: Re:
> > >Replacingmy old PIX Classic))
> > >
> > >
> > >I don't have the link in front of me but I saw a news blurb that Cisco
> > >licensced QNX in 1998?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >At 12:27 PM 4/18/2002 -0400, Brian Ford wrote:
> > > >Wes,
> > > >
> > > >I don't know where you heard this legend about  IOS running on some
> > other
> > > >OS....  It is not true.
> > > >
> > > >IOS is an operating system implemented directly on a hardware
> > > >platform.  There is no underlying operating system.  Look at your IOS
> > > >router for a "Boot Loader"; that's a small IOS kernel (and not a third
> > > >party OS).
> > > >
> > > >PIX OS ran many, many, many years ago on top of a real time OS
> > (Finesse)
> > > >that was developed specifically for the hardware platform that the PIX
> > > >used at that time.  Today, the PIX OS runs directly on hardware (when
> > you
> > > >look at the actual PIX source code you sometimes see references to the
> > old
> > > >real time OS).
> > > >
> > > >You may be thinking of one of a number attempts (by third parties) to
> > > >create a program that runs on Unix that can execute an IOS or PIX
> > > >image.  The latest attempt at something like that was the "IOU" (IOS On
> > > >Unix) project.  I don't know how far that ever got.
> > > >
> > > >This claim that either IOS or PIX is a version of Unix or running on
> > Unix
> > > >is becoming a kind of annual event.  Maybe someone will claim that all
> > > >Linux implementations actually runs on one copy of run-time Windows NT
> > > >v4.0 next?
> > > >
> > > >Liberty for All,
> > > >
> > > >Brian
> > > >
> > > >At 08:15 AM 4/18/2002 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > >>Message: 6
> > > >>From: "Noonan, Wesley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >>To: "'Clifford Thurber'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > > >>         "'Mikael Olsson'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >>Cc: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >>Subject: RE: Microsoft ISA server (Was: Re: Replacing my old PIX
> > Classic)
> > > >>Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 09:12:38 -0500
> > > >>
> > > >>A sizable chuck of Cisco (don't know for sure on the PIX, but I know
> > on
> > > >>their routers) runs an OS behind the scenes that is called Xenix, XNS,
> > ZNS,
> > > >>or something along those lines (I really don't recall the actual
> > name). IOS
> > > >>runs on top of that (is my understanding, kind of like how Banyan ran
> > > on top
> > > >>of Unix). My point was simply, if one is going to cast the "a firewall
> > is
> > > >>only as strong as the underlying OS" stone, they need to be prepared
> > to
> > > cast
> > > >>that stone at virtually every firewall out there. It is hardly a ISA
> > > >>specific issue (heck, FW1 runs on MS doesn't it?).
> > > >>
> > > >>Wes Noonan
> > > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >>281-208-8993
> > > >
> > >
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