Dear Krassimir, Dear FIS, I suspect one might find a way to answer this question about what constitutes an agent in this paper by J.H. van Hateren:
https://arxiv.org/abs/1407.8314 Entitled: "What does Maxwell's demon want from life? When information becomes functional and physical" (which also provides an important distinction about 'information') However, I would propose that 'an agent' /as such/ cannot exist, in the sense that it cannot exist as a fundamental, but that a system imbued with quality of agency however, *can* exist. Yet, this, as does the paper, would seem to pose the question of what endows a system with the quality of 'agency'. Perhaps one ought to use Heinz von Förster's approximation of "Recursively Operating Non-Trivial Machine", but replace "machine" with "system", and assume that this consequently leads to that... Kind regards, Arthur On Mon, 16 Oct 2017, 09:46 Gyorgy Darvas, <darv...@iif.hu> wrote: > Information exists at all levels of Agents. > > Good luck, > Gyuri > > > On 2017.10.15. 23:27, Krassimir Markov wrote: > > Dear FIS Colleagues, > > > > After nice collaboration last weeks, a paper Called “Data versus > > Information” is prepared in very beginning draft variant and already is > > sent to authors for refining. > > Many thanks for fruitful work! > > > > What we have till now is the understanding that the information is some > > more than data. > > In other words: > > d = r > > i = r + e > > where: > > d => data; > > i => information; > > r => reflection; > > e => something Else, internal for the Agent (subject, interpreter, > > etc.). > > > > Simple question: What is “Agent”? > > > > When an entity became an Agent? What is important to qualify the entity > as > > Agent or as an Intelligent Agent? What kind of agent is the cell? At the > > end - does information exist for Agents or only for Intelligent Agents? > > > > Thesis: Information exists only for the Intelligent Agents. > > > > Antithesis: Information exists at all levels of Agents. > > > > Friendly greetings > > Krassimir > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fis mailing list > > Fis@listas.unizar.es > > http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis > > _______________________________________________ > Fis mailing list > Fis@listas.unizar.es > http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis >
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