On Fri, Sep 01, 2006 at 04:11:37PM +0200, Axel Liljencrantz wrote:
> True. On the other hand, starting the pager position at e.g. 23% is
> pretty unintuitive.

i simply disagree on that. i find it quite meaningful.
it's not the start but how much i see.

> fish_pager will try to [ ... ] make everything fit on one page if even
> remotely possible. If it fails, then the paged output will be given
> much more room again.

ah, ok, have not noticed that yet.

> > builtin (8)   e (13)          INSTALL        p (7)     u (3)
> > c (12)        f (8)           k (3)          reader.h  w (6)
> > _darcs        gen_hdr (2)     m (3)          README    x (13)
> > doc_src       h (8)           Makefile.in    s (7)
> > Doxyfile (2)  i (9)           output. (2)    t (3)
> I think that might be taking it too far. [ ... ] This type of workflow
> would be impossible if the pager was hellbent on always fitting
> everything onto a single screen.

that is true, didn't think of that. obviously i am not using these
features much yet. it would still be useful for files though.

> Good point. Unfortunatly, the sequence for shift-space and space are
> the same.

strange.
mozilla uses shift-space for page-up.
maybe in a terminal that's different.

> Alt-Space could be implemented with no trouble. Or Alt-Up and
> Alt-down.

would not help. most window managers use alt for themselves.
any alt-key combo does not work in my terminal.

> > it would also be nice if the pager could ask if it is going to show more
> > than a screenful of choices.
> Why would that be useful? 

because i still have my bash motions hardwired here. and am not used to
that yet:

> If you don't want the completions, you can just keep on typing,
> since pressing any normal key will exit the pager

ah, i just realized what keeps me from doing that:
to keep on typing i need to see where i am. the pager overwrites the
commandline and so i get lost, because i do not know what to type,
because i don't remember what i have typed already.

with out the commandline visible i feel that i have to exit the pager
first before i can get back to the commandline. it took me a while to
get used to the fact that any key will exit the pager, and then i
started the habit of always hitting esc to exit it.

if you could shorten the pager by one line so that the commandline is
always visible then going on typing would feel more natural

> If your terminal emulator supports it, fish_pager will
> even restore the terminal contents from before running fish_pager on
> exit. 

hmm i thought that screen does support that. 

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