On 9/1/06, Martin Baehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Sep 01, 2006 at 05:06:59PM +0200, Axel Liljencrantz wrote: > > I think a lot of the little in fish are like that - they're very > > useful, but you don't notice them, because they're not 'showy'. They > > simply take a way an annoyance. :-) > > yup, though sometimes they are so well hidden that you believe the > annoyance is still there by assumption.
Not much I can do about that, unless you'd want fish to become 'ADD software' and nag you every time it does something even remotely clever. ;-) > > > I'm sure there are lots of situations where what you really need is a > > simply overview of possible completions. The thing is, it's kind of > > hard for the pager to know when this would make sense and when it > > wouldn't. > > maybe with a different key (ctrl-tab if that works) that runs a function > which starts the pager with a different commandline option. > or inside the pager a key to switch modes (i am just brainstorming) The problem I see with that is that is very rarely get used - you don't want to have to remember what mode to show the completions in. I'd much rather have a system that figures out what you actually want and automatically does the right thing (almost) all of the time. > > > Few people know how primitive the terminal interface really is. > > i knew it was promitive, but reading those details is nice, thanks. > > > Shortcuts using the Alt key are usually handled by prepending the > > regular character with an escape character. > > ah, those work... > > > > would not help. most window managers use alt for themselves. > > > any alt-key combo does not work in my terminal. > > Bummer. I'm open to suggestions. > > well, esc-space might be usable (maybe even better than alt because > there is a larger distance and i don't have to deform my hand to have > the thumb on space and a finger on alt. Ugh - that way lies trouble. Remember how I said fish, emacs and vi use timing information to detect if an escape character comes from the escape key or from pressing alt-Some key? As a side effect of that, pressing escape and then space will always get interpreted as two separate key strokes, not a combination. There might be ways to work around that, but I fear the possible side effects and corner cases. Are you sure your window manager steals _all_ Alt-sequences? Does, for example Alt-p do nothing inside fish? Ctrl-Up/Down work in some terminals. If you have the fish source, you can always use the command 'make key_reader' to compile a trivial command that tells you what it finds on stdin. Start it and press e.g. Ctrl-Up and see what sequence gets generated, if any. > > > > if you could shorten the pager by one line so that the commandline is > > > always visible then going on typing would feel more natural > > That should be possible. I'll test it and see how it works. > > thanks. > > greetings, martin. > -- > cooperative communication with sTeam - caudium, pike, roxen and unix > offering: programming, training and administration - anywhere in the world > -- > pike programmer travelling and working in europe open-steam.org > unix system- bahai.or.at iaeste.(tuwien.ac|or).at > administrator (caudium|gotpike).org is.schon.org > Martin Bähr http://www.iaeste.or.at/~mbaehr/ > -- Axel ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 _______________________________________________ Fish-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fish-users
