>>Obviously this may sound harsh, but because the app you wrote 
>>was buggier or harder to build isn't a reflection of the 
>>technology in my opinion.

It is to me.  There are a lot of things you can do with Flex in a day
that would take weeks to do in straight Flash/Actionscript.  This is a
fact.  For an example, one of the features of the application I worked
on required a Flex-like panel (if you know what I mean by a Flex panel)
to contain content that could be built on the fly, to any size, look,
feel, etc.  Flex has a built in Panel renderer to host content.  You
create a panel with a single XML statement - takes literally 5 seconds.
To do this in Flash, it required me to build and test a large Panel
class that would scale and render the panel correctly - I won't tell you
how long it took, but it was a lot longer than 45 seconds. The result
was the same, but the time spent was drastically different. Now, the
Actionscript class I built was far more customizable than the Flex one
because I had access to everything that rendered the panel, but I didn't
need all that for the project. That to me is a representation of the
different strengths each app has.  

Jason Merrill
Bank of America 
Learning Technology Solutions
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
>>Of Christian
>>Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 8:44 AM
>>To: Flashcoders mailing list
>>Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE
>>
>>Obviously this may sound harsh, but because the app you wrote 
>>was buggier or harder to build isn't a reflection of the 
>>technology in my opinion.  I've been following this thread 
>>pretty closely and have begun going through all the 
>>responses.  Flex to me has seemed to discredit a lot of the 
>>flash developers out there buy putting advanced functionality 
>>at the finger tips of the average user.
>>
>>I do think that flex will eventually be leveraged correctly, 
>>but the idea that a whole new IDE must be built simply to 
>>build form based applications is bizarre to me.  I have to 
>>imagine that the potential for Flex would extend far beyond 
>>Form RIA or else it wouldn't exist.  But then again, that's 
>>macromedia for you. 
>>
>>The other issue i see with flex is it's ability to scale.  It 
>>doesn't seem to have the ability to handle a ton of 
>>simultaneous connections very well, ala Flash Media Server.  
>>Perhaps I'm off base here, but I'd prefer to develop the 
>>front ends in flash and communicate back and forth with a 
>>traditional back-end I.E. ASP, PHP, etc.  Those things are 
>>free to develop on, more prove and seemingly scale a hell of 
>>a lot better.  
>>Yes, it's not as simple as an "EASY" button, but if work was 
>>easy it'd be fun and we'd all be broke.
>>
>>Merrill, Jason wrote:
>>> At my previous employer, wanted to build a project with Flex 1.5, 
>>> client couldn't/wouldn't pay for it, so we built it with 
>>Flash - took 
>>> 5 times longer, and was 5-times buggier but it was do-able. 
>> Basically 
>>> had to write the same kinds of classes for Flash that macromedia 
>>> already built for Flex, and make it renderable by 
>>descriptive XML. It 
>>> was a fun project, but I wish I had Flex.  It was a very large 
>>> interactive portal with different elements which also 
>>displayed metrics dashboards.
>>>
>>> Jason Merrill
>>> Bank of America  |  www.bankofamerica.com Learning & Organization 
>>> Effectiveness Technology Solutions
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
>>Behalf Of Doug 
>>> Coning
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 3:45 PM
>>> To: Flashcoders mailing list
>>> Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE
>>>
>>> This may be a dumb question, but has anyone ever developed 
>>a project 
>>> in Flex and towards the end decided that Flash would have been a 
>>> better tool for the project?  Or vice-a-versa?
>>>
>>> If so, why?  I'm trying to determine if there are any pitfalls of 
>>> deciding to use Flex over Flash for larger projects.
>>>
>>> Hope that makes sense...
>>>
>>> Doug Coning
>>> Senior Web Development Programmer
>>> FORUM Solutions, LLC
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