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On 9/15/06 12:57 PM, "Kevin Aebig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I understand what you mean in regards to AS2 application development. Until > MX 2004, Flash as a common mainstream application was pretty unheard of by > the general public. That's not to say it didn't happen though... > > I definitely disagree with the first thing you mentioned about there not > being a lot of guys who used Flash as an application platform before AS2. I > can look at a lot of guys on this list who've been here for a long time and > helped pave the way for the modern Flash Platform. > > Claus, Grant, Dave, Samuel, Jesse, Brandon etc. have been on this list since > I first joined up 6 or 7 years ago and posted several examples of > applications over the years to demonstrate the abilities of Flash. Heck even > I did a single large app with Flash 4 (Whatta pain!), 4 more with Flash 5, > and than a ton since with every other version... > > The one thing that I do find somewhat laughable is the necessity to state > that a CompSci background is important. For all intents and purposes, by > education I'm a designer. I spent a considerable amount of time and money > teaching myself programming theories and best practices. To say that I'm > unqualified is somewhat insulting considering the effort it took and the > passion it shows. > > Cheers, > > !k > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of hank > williams > Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 11:58 AM > To: Flashcoders mailing list > Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Software Development Position > > I am all for job postings, but I gotta tell ya, sometimes they just > say silly things. > > 4 years developing flash. > must know AS1 and AS2 > Software development person (programmed before flash I presume) > Background in other languages and systems > Familiarity with design patterns > Good understanding of basic database issues > Not a position for an artist or designer. > Must be willing to relocate to Detroit area. > > Ok, first of all, most people who have been doing flash for 4+ years > are artists or designers. Almost no serious programming was even > possible in flash before AS2 so by defining 4 years you are > essentially insisting that someone *not* be someone who "has a > background in other languages and systems". I'm not saying they don't > exist at all, but it is such a silly requirement because it > inappropriately limits the pool. Of course insisting that someone be > an expert in AS1 is even more silly. Is this because their job will be > fixing someone else's 5 year old spaghetti code? Then the kicker is > that this person must be in the Detroit area or willing to relocate. > > So in my mind, they are looking for the tiny pool of people that > studied computer science but were also interested in animation and so > dabbled in flash before it was "real programmer ready" and are willing > to move to one of the most depressed metropolitan areas in the US. And > I bet they wanna pay like 70-80k. Why cant people write intelligent > job specs. Oh and by the way I am not looking for a job I just find > this annoying that neither I nor any of the excellent programmers I > know (and I know quite a few) would qualify for this job. > > I really wonder where some of these job specs come from. > > Hank > > > On 9/15/06, swfer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> iDashboards is one of the hottest software companies within Business >> Intelligence dashboards (www.iDashboards.com). Our customers include >> NASA, US Navy, Lockheed Martin, Johnson Controls and GE. We have an >> immediate position for a Senior Flash Developer with 4+ years of >> experience. >> >> If being part of a leading edge and innovative software company >> excites you, we have an excellent opportunity. We are seeking an >> experienced Software Developer who has a strong background in >> Flash/ActionScript. This is not a position for a Flash >> artist/designer, but for a software development person. Must have a >> thorough understanding of ActionScript 1 and 2, and how to write >> efficient code. Should have a background in other programming >> languages and systems as well. Should be comfortable with >> multi-person development projects, and working with other people's >> code. >> >> Must be reasonably well-versed in object-oriented software. Needs an >> understanding of XML, and its interface to ActionScript. Should be >> familiar with SQL and have a good understanding of basic database >> issues. Familiarity with design patterns is a plus, as is an >> understanding of user interfaces. >> >> OPPORTUNITY >> You will be part of our world-class Software Team: >> - Develop cutting edge enhancements to the existing software >> - Work with other Flash developers and Server-side Development team >> >> REQUIREMENTS >> - Must have 4+ years experience in Flash/ActionScript and object >> oriented programming >> - Must have developed database driven rich-media Flash applications with > XML >> - BS degree preferred and good work references >> >> The compensation plan is lucrative with a competitive base salary, >> bonus and stock options. The company also offers excellent medical >> and dental coverage along with 401K. >> >> Please email your resume & a cover letter addressing your >> qualifications. Qualified candidates must demonstrate verifiable >> references to be considered. Email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> We will consider exceptionally qualified candidates from any where >> within the US or Canada who are willing to relocate to Detroit >> region. 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