loved this post and think it will be a great discussion if some of the heavy hitters on this list get involved
Unity is an amazing piece of tech and will be a big player in the future (anyone who doesn't believe should spend an hour with cartoon network's www.fusionfall.com) Adobe has established itself as the de facto supplier of creative apps but just like Quark did in print, it is definitely in danger of walling itself into it's own garden and simply becoming irrelevant. It made a brilliant strategic move (for itself, if not for the consumer) in buying macromedia but doing so hasn't guaranteed it's future and I think it should be looking for ways of being relevant on all platforms, despite the platform holder's reservations. What you have suggested for flash as a separate app in it's own right (being launched by the browser, maybe on a click on a flash icon, much like youtube is right now) would seem to be a brilliant idea. Flash is a bit of a processor hog but without the encumbrance of the browser as well, it could work really well on the iphone and not be too much of a drain. Apple's main problem with flash, as with java, is that it won't allow other development platforms onto it's hardware. It maintains that this is for security reasons but I don't think that there is a dev out there that thinks it's anything other than to stop people circumventing apple's appstore for distribution. However, I think the argument that the web itself (as well as unity) could be seen as a platform and was certainly sold as such by apple originally as the iphone development environment before the appstore came along is much more valid. There can be no doubt that Apple will have to allow something of flash in the future but until apple and adobe stop squabbling like kids in a playground, that may be quite some way off, after the damage has been done a On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Romuald Quantin < soundstep.mail...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Not sure that's really the right place for it, but... I'm wondering what > are your thoughts about that. > > Which Flash Developer has never had a struggle with Flash Player > performance and garbage collection? > > I'm not surprised apple doesn't want flash on their iPhone because of > performance issues. You can say not it is not true, it is because of their > PDF renderer, and they have a flash player running on the iPhone in their > lab, blah blah. But the Flash Player is a slow virtual machine, isn't that > right? > > Even AIR applications are always kind of slow, not as quick and reactive as > a desktop application should be, and this because of the Flash Player. Just > resizing a window, select text or other simple action is not as reactive a > real desktop application should be. > > When I see what the Unity3D player (and very lightweight in terms of file > size) can render, WOW. Yes the Flash Platform has wonderful tool and > framework to create applications, but how long before someone is coming all > these tools (such as AIR, the Flex framework, layouts and components)? Maybe > Unity? Maybe another? > > On the iPhone you can't see a Flash site or a Unity3D site, if I'm not > wrong unity has created a tool to convert Unity application to iPhone > application (not web-based then), but... where the hell is that Flash Player > converter to create iPhone application from AS code? What is Adobe doing > about that? How can 35 people from Unity can be more reactive than Adobe? > Does Adobe have a problem with the Flash virtual machine? > > With today's computer, how can a virtual machine be that slow? And I'm not > talking about web-based application that can limited by the browser, but > also AIR application. > > Even if Flash will be here for a great bunch of years, I don't see a real > good future unless they re-write a real new Virtual Machine that is taking > all the power you can use from a computer. > > If I'm not wrong Flash is running on Google Android phone? Is it working > well? > > You might say I'm completely wrong, fine, I dont know everything. I'm just > asking questions. I'm just wondering what's going because I have to struggle > about Flash Player performance. > > What do you think? If the Flash Player a great virtual machine or will it > be overwhelmed by other technologies if Adobe does not react? Is there > something I'm missing? Flash Community is a wonderful one, I'd like to think > the Flash Platform will evolve. > > Romu > > _______________________________________________ > Flashcoders mailing list > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > _______________________________________________ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
