I think its time to read what you wrote yourself as you've authored some 
inaccuracies yourself in regards to Apple working with Adobe, the whole flavors 
of C thing, etc. It's very interesting reading for the first twenty posts or 
so, but i think its time for me to filter this thread.

E.

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On Apr 30, 2010, at 9:59 PM, "Mattheis, Erik (MIN - WSW)" 
<[email protected]> wrote:

> I see you're trying to be objective, but the crux of Job's bogus argument is 
> it's impossible to make good apps for the iPhone in the Flash development 
> environment, and they're protecting their consumers.
> 
> Others have pointed out that even if this is true, which it's not, part of 
> the problem would be that Apple hasn't worked with Adobe on making the Player 
> perform optimally on Macs. Plus, the app store has a lot of crappy apps among 
> the 200,000 that weren't developed with Flash; if Apple's concern was user 
> experience, they'd be more selective in apps made available, regardless of 
> how they were developed. And why the selective enforcement of the "no cross 
> compilers unless they're originally coded in one of three flavors of C?"
> 
> I'm a decades long Apple fanatic and own stock, but their recent behavior has 
> been spiteful and benefits neither developers or consumers. Jon Stewart's 
> commentary says it all. And today, we find Apple is shutting down LaLa.com, 
> which it recently acquired. http://mashable.com/2010/04/30/lala-shutdown/ 
> This move is the equivalent of Capitol buying Virgin Records and sending 
> someone out to your house to take back all your old David Bowie,  XTC, Peter 
> Tosh records and telling it’s OK, you can look through our catalog, I’m sure 
> you’ll find something you’ll like just as much!
> 
> Apple, meet shark. Jump!
> 
> Also as others have insinuated, Adobe isn't vested in people having the Flash 
> Player. If exporting as HTML5+JS will perform everything without the Flash 
> Player, Adobe will have nothing to loose and everything to gain: they won't 
> have to promote the plug-in nor provide and maintain downloads for the 
> Player. Adobe moving on is their way of saying "OK, hotshot, bring it on."
> ________________________________________
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> [[email protected]] On Behalf Of Anthony Pace 
> [[email protected]]
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 8:16 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] letter from Steve Jobs on Flash
> 
> After complaining for years that developers needed access to the raw
> audio data from the mic, that we are just finally seeing progress in
> 10.1.  The lack of feature support in their tools, the bugs they have
> had for years with unloading objects, and the performance issues the
> player has, all make it so Adobe has almost no legs to stand on; for, as
> Steve Jobs' said:
> 
> "We cannot be at the mercy of a third party deciding if and when they
> will make our enhancements available to our developers."
> 
> However, although the above is most definitely true, Apple is forcing
> users and developers into a world with one standard and one figure head
> to dictate all measures.  Plainly put, apple is being too "big brother"
> about this.
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