It's only been three days but haXe seems to be able to use all of AS3
intermingled with haXe syntax, so I'm thinking of it as AS3++.  (maybe
that's a stretch)

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On Nov 30, 2011, at 9:53 AM, "Merrill, Jason"
<jason.merr...@bankofamerica.com> wrote:

> Wow, thanks for all this discussion - this is great!  So many good responses, 
> thanks everyone for contributing and keep it coming!  I think I'm definitely 
> taking up haXe in 2012!
>
> Another question, I know haXe is just as good and powerful (if not more) than 
> AS3, but does AS3 have any syntactical / features that give it an advantage 
> over haXe or is haXe just a better language overall in your opinion(s)?
>
> Jason Merrill
> Instructional Technology Architect II
> Bank of America  Global Learning
>
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>
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> Thanks again Tom. The example is impressive.
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 8:21 AM, tom rhodes <tom.rho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> ok, initially the haxe flash api to html5 was done with a lib called jeash.
>> which has been around for a while now. the nme project has very
>> recently incorporated jeash as it's route to html5.
>>
>> here is a nice example of using one codebase to hit swf and html5...
>>
>>
>> http://www.joshuagranick.com/blog/2011/09/22/first-glimpse-at-cross-pl
>> atform-game-running-flash-and-html5/
>>
>> if you do a google for haxe jeash, you'll see it's been around for a
>> while and it's integration into nme seems pretty natural. they were
>> parallel efforts in intepreting the flash api for ages...
>>
>> On 30 November 2011 14:03, Kurt Dommermuth <k...@kurtdommermuth.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Tom,
>>>
>>> Thank you.  I'm going to look into Haxe more.
>>>
>>> Psychologically I have a stumbling block with NME.  On their how it
>>> works page (http://www.haxenme.org/about-nme/how-it-works/) there
>>> are
>> solutions
>>> that go in the opposite direction of what I'm personally interested in.
>>>
>>> They very nicely show how NME publishes to SWF, iOS, webOS, Android,
>>> MAC/LInux, but it doesn't mention publishing to HTML5/JS.
>>>
>>> It very well may, but you can understand why I'd tend to move on if
>>> it's not mentioned on that page.
>>>
>>> Forgive me if I'm missing something.  I'm deep in this search for a
>>> solution and I'll be the first to admit I could easily misunderstand
>>> something.
>>>
>>> Kurt
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 7:33 AM, tom rhodes <tom.rho...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> the haxe forum isn't very active but the mailing list is, and it
>>>> is a
>>> great
>>>> place to get help to get started.
>>>>
>>>> this is the new home of the list
>>>>
>>>> https://groups.google.com/group/haxelang/topics?pli=1
>>>>
>>>> you have to dig around a bit to get going as documentation is
>>>> limited
>> at
>>>> the moment but the list is the best place to get the information
>>>> you
>>> need.
>>>>
>>>> if you want to do html5 using code that is familiar to you as an
>>>> AS3
>>> coder
>>>> then look at NME as i mentioned in a previous post.
>>>>
>>>> On 30 November 2011 13:16, Kurt Dommermuth
>>>> <k...@kurtdommermuth.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Jason,
>>>>>
>>>>> You're very first statement is exactly what interests me too.
>>>>> You
>>> wrote
>>>>> "Thinking of starting to learn haXe to produce OOP apps and
>>>>> export as Javascript for HTML 5 apps."
>>>>>
>>>>> What are your thoughts so far?  I just looked at Haxe too but
>>>>> I'm
>>>> concerned
>>>>> because there doesn't seem to be a lot of actvity in the Haxe forum.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm at a loss this morning because at this moment I really just
>>>>> want
>> to
>>>>> make a web based app that performs well on the iPhone. I have
>>>>> looked
>> at
>>>> the
>>>>> following and am not finding satisfaction:
>>>>>
>>>>> appmobi - they get too many hooks into you and force you down
>>>>> paths
>> you
>>>> may
>>>>> not necessarily want to go - like using the Amazon network to
>>>>> store
>>>> files.
>>>>> I just wanted to grab my resources and upload them to MY server.
>>>>> No
>>> easy
>>>>> task with appmobi.
>>>>>
>>>>> phonegap - everyone seems to love it, but it seems to be
>>>>> primarily
>>> geared
>>>>> to use traditional web based tools to compile to native apps.  I
>>>>> want
>>> to
>>>> be
>>>>> on the web - not the device.
>>>>>
>>>>> jQuery mobile - assumes you want to make a web site, not an app
>>>>> and
>>>> injects
>>>>> all kinds of styles that get in the way.  I'm a big fan of
>>>>> jQuery,
>> but
>>>>> jQuery mobile is very confining.
>>>>>
>>>>> sencha - seems promising, but within 2 hours of working with it
>>>>> I
>> seem
>>> to
>>>>> have found a bug.  I cannot add a listener.  May be my
>> misunderstanding
>>>>> though, so I'm going to continue.
>>>>>
>>>>> Based on this conversation I looked at NME, but again, my small
>>>> mindedness,
>>>>> it feels like voodoo and it just doesn't seem to put much
>>>>> emphasis on publishing for web based apps.
>>>>>
>>>>> Overall, I must say I resent the hell out of Steve Jobs.  His
>> comments
>>>> have
>>>>> thrown us back into the dark ages. I look at the options to
>> accommodate
>>>> his
>>>>> vision and I see one Frankenstein solution after another.  HTML5
>> seems
>>> to
>>>>> be a handful of multimedia tags meant to make everyone and their
>>>>> mom
>> a
>>>> web
>>>>> programer and that it will work on everything.  Hahhahahaha.
>>>>> The
>>> problem
>>>>> is that the reality is it takes a boat load of JS and fall backs
>>>>> to
>>> make
>>>> it
>>>>> work.
>>>>>
>>>>> We had AS3.  It did the job and though it was flawed it was far
>>>>> and
>>> away
>>>>> the best cross platform solution there was. dammit.  Because of
>>>>> one
>>> dummy
>>>>> and his legions of lemmings we're back to using 15 year old
>>>>> scripting languages to get things done.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmmmm.  Guess I'm a little feisty and bitter this morning!
>>>>>
>>>>> :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for letting me vent.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, I appreciate the discussion very much on this topic.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kurt
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Merrill, Jason <
>>>>> jason.merr...@bankofamerica.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thinking of starting to learn haXe to produce OOP apps and
>>>>>> export
>> as
>>>>>> Javascript for HTML 5 apps. Checked it out years ago, but
>>>>>> decided
>>>> against
>>>>>> it since it was not part of the normal ecosystem and would
>>>>>> have to
>> be
>>>>>> sharing code with non-haXe AS3 developers. But not thinking of
>>>>>> the
>>>>> future,
>>>>>> I am more interested in it given what's happening with Adobe
>>>>>> and
>>> HTML5.
>>>>>> Anyone done that and does it work well for that?  Can you have
>>>>>> a
>>> single
>>>>>> source base and export for AS3 apps and Javascript for HTML 5
>>>>>> or
>> are
>>>>> there
>>>>>> caveats?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jason Merrill
>>>>>> Instructional Technology Architect II  Bank of America
>>>>>> Global Learning
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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