This is the reason we have decided to use one standard form.
We maintain a message log for accountability.

Flwrap fulfills most of what we need as it unwraps the information correctly
on the receiving end when used as part of the communication process.

Any Radio service not just the Amateur service has the same challenges.
That requires trained and qualified operators to put the information in a
meaningful format for the agency/unit they are assigned too.

Often we may actually transcribe the information into a specific form/format
as requested by those we serve and attach the original message as received.
This provides full accountability and tracking.  This function of a Radio
Operator really hasn't changed that much since the spark gap days.

This is an area where ARES and others in the Amateur Community can really
excel and provide meaningful services to their communities.  Some even cross
train to augment agencies primary services in times of need.

Now, once we get a high dollar mobile Satellite system brought to the area
from some distant unit, then we can provide all types of complete services
including attaching a document and using the Internet with direct
connectivity and solve all the problems including high bandwidth proprietary
formats like X-rays.  All with complete accountability and traceability.
(until it goes down of course).

It all boils down to using a standard approach including forms that
accomplish most of what everyone needs.

No system will ever be perfect not matter what we attempt to do.

We can, however, do a really fine job with the Fl Suite of tools that rank
right up there with some of the best radio techniques and capabilities of
Federal Agencies and the Military.

We can always tweak and improve our processes as time goes on and certainly
the points you bring up should be kept in the basket of concepts to push the
development.

Keeping this type of cordial dialogue, is the source of the best innovation
one can ever have.

I thank all of you for what you do and the ideas you put forth.  Personally
I take them back to our unit and share them.  It helps us improve our
services.

Again Thanks,

Mike



On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Larry Levesque <[email protected]> wrote:

> I understand what you are saying. But we also have to realize that
> everything is not perfect. The original ICS forms were designed to be
> delivered in person. Once you add amateur radio to it, it adds more layers
> of complexity.
>
> You have to be able to track where the message came from. Where it was
> passed to. And if and to whom it was delivered. None of this information is
> was designed be be put on the form itself.
>
> Maybe what we should be looking for is a "framework" to wrap the actual
> messages in. A envelope of tracking and routing information contained in
> flmsg and passed with the messages. This information would be kept in a
> database with the message itself. The message could be printed separately
> without the envelope information and given to the recipient. Or we could
> hand them the envelope information also if they need it. This would allow us
> to give them exactly what they want and have our info too.
>
> This would probably take a bit of work since it would need to be able to be
> customisable as there are many different versions of even an ICS-213 form
> out there.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 07, 2010 at 02:39:06PM -0500, Dave Kleber wrote:
> > Well, as I stated in my previous message, our job is to send and
> > receive the data from served agencies, with 100% accuracy, as
> > presented to us, to the best of our ability.
> > NBEMS/FLDIGI/FLWRAP/FLMSG has already proved to be the most
> > impressive toolkit in the bag with this regard.
> >
> > But if we're going in with a blank slate, I think the FLMSG toolkit
> > should emulate the national FEMA standard forms. Any
> > qualified/properly trained NBEMS emcomm volunteer should be able to
> > easily make changes from the FEMA/NIMS standards on the fly.
> >
> > -Dave, KB3FXI
> >
>
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> KA1VGM
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