Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price

Thu, 31 Mar 2005 18:31:29 -0800

I think a more serious contender is Xamlon. Previewing on April 6th.

http://news.com.com/Software+turns+.Net+to+Flash/2100-1032_3-5647420.html


Jeff Steiner wrote: 
My guess is that you will be back.

Lazslo, while the samples look great, is still based upon Flash player 5
(Beta 3 of Lazslo is player 6).  It is one of those things where you have to
wonder - how does Lazslo know what to extend of the Flash Player.  The
people that are contributing to it make guesses and try to extend the
capabilities as far as they can, but they are still limited in their
knowledge.  I have never seen an API to the Flash player made readily
available to the public.  Also - as the Flash Player gets more complicated
it will become more difficult to code hooks into the player to give
developers the same functionality that is provided by Flex, and Breeze, and
Flash, ........

This really goes for all the competing technologies out there that are doing
their best to output as a swf.  MM is doing something right - they hold all
the cards to the most widely accepted piece of downloaded content on the
web.  My guess is that they still have a few aces up their sleeves and that
they will always be the power to beat (as long as the continue to devote
their company's future to flash).

I am also guessing that MM was prepared for this backlash - but as future
iterations come out, and they show more and more of the fun stuff that they
want to give us non-flash developers the ability to extend, Everyone that
decided ~now to give Laszlo, et. al., a look will come back to the Flex
world to see what they missed.

Jeff
http://www.flexauthority.com



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Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price


  
We've seen a fair number of people prototyping with Flex but few deploying
    
'real' applications. The price increases and limitations e.g.
Internationalization will likely make prototyping the only thing we ever do
with Flex even though we have purchased it.
  
Frankly, we are considering contributing time/effort to Laszlo.

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Surely the fact the price is going up means that it is not selling well
    
(and possibly the whole RIA scene is not as widespread as you are led to
believe).  If Flex was booming the costs would come down allowing more users
to adopt and Flex to continue to thrive.
  
I would be interested to see how many people actually have purchased Flex
    
and are using it with Gusto - I bet it is not as widespread as it's made out
to be.
  






From: Valy Sivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 31 March 2005 15:33
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price

Lucian,

"4 CPUs and Gold Support for $29,000. That's actually cheaper
than Flex was in the past for 4 CPUs + Gold Support."

It's like going to the car dealer ship and the guy tells me that the Lexus
    
SUV is the only new base model...but don't worry...that it's still cheaper
than buying 2 Lexus Sedans... lol!
  
"Finally, for software vendors who want to embed Flex in their
    
applications, we have special pricing built around your requirements and
your market. However, and this is important, where you see value in Flex, we
are interested in working with you to design the right packaging for your
needs. If you are interested in using Flex on a real project, let us know so
we can work with you and find the right packaging/pricing to fit your needs.
"
  
It's clear for me that MM have this price for the big fishs... Small fishs
    
like many of us needs to negociate with the sales contact and see how much
might cost... I'm affraid that can't beat 12k/2 CPUs... that was still
considered expensive by many potential users...
  
I'm sure that soon the RIA - market will cool off a bit and MM will come
    
back with s


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