>>>>>>> In terms of Flex dedicated sites you've got a couple of blogs, CFlex and Flex Authority. There's a long way to go! <<<<<<<
Your right. I didn't start messing with Flash until version 3 in school, and didn't start actually utilizing it for development projects until version 5. Flex is at 1.5... but already it rocks and I want to use it! >>>>>>> So by increasing the price, you're reducing the amount of potential developers, knowledge sharers, activitists, evangelists, resource sites, etc... which will result in MM having to continue dedicating heavy amounts of resources towards keeping the community floating along. It'll be interesting to see how things play out. <<<<<<< I don't know about that. I have a working version here I can use to play, learn on, and post examples for others to do the same. I'll never pay for Flex, I'll have my clients do that. The price doesn't affect my attitude towards Flex at all, although, the higher it goes up, the better I feel about the product. >>>>>>> - LoanMX to help companies pay for Flex - Work For Licenses Program. Dedicate your coding time towards Macromedia projects in exchange for points that you can redeem for discounts on s/w. <<<<<<< Dude, have you ever worked in a big company? Flex' price is nothing. Let me say it again, Flex' price is a drop in the bucket, no problem, not expensive, all good, no worries, not a problem. Have you ever heard of Flashcom (Flash Communication Server MX)? How about Breeze? Those same products, although different markets, still thrive where I've seen in the enterprise market. Weblogic costs...what, 10k now? Wasn't Oracle like some insane amount too? Why do you care, it's not your money! Your 2nd one is awesome though; do that, because even consulting work directly translates those points. If your an authority/talented/good/knowledgeable with Flex, and people know it, those people who wish to use it typically have money; enough to buy Flex, the needed hardware, software, back-end systems, IT and developers required for said systems, you to code the frontend, and hopefully some leftover budget for fellow developers and some designers, and information architects... ah, the list goes on. Formulating those types of groups to create enterprise level software is not cheap; you have to pay their salaries too, and at least in America, it's way more than 12k a year... that's only a few months for 1 person! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tarik Ahmed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:27 PM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price Financially, obviously they ran their cost/market/etc analysis and came up with those numbers. I think one thing that is a risk play for MM is the intangible value of the critical mass when it comes to community knowledge. Eg there are so many Coldfusion guys that you have city level user groups all over the world. Flex has -1- for the entire planet. :) If I were buying into a brand new technology, and it's the greatest thing the world has ever seen, but as far as you know you're the only one into it - then your only source of support is the vendor. In terms of Flex dedicated sites you've got a couple of blogs, CFlex and Flex Authority. There's a long way to go! Community support is critical to technology adoption. It was the second thing my manager asked about (the first was the price), because they didn't want to invest in a technology that hardly anyone knows - puts too much dependence on one or two people. So to compensate for this, MM has been providing a lot of developer support for free in this forum - that's a huge cost when you have premium developer time spent doing a ton of emails. So by increasing the price, you're reducing the amount of potential developers, knowledge sharers, activitists, evangelists, resource sites, etc... which will result in MM having to continue dedicating heavy amounts of resources towards keeping the community floating along. It'll be interesting to see how things play out. Here's some ideas :) - LoanMX to help companies pay for Flex - Work For Licenses Program. Dedicate your coding time towards Macromedia projects in exchange for points that you can redeem for discounts on s/w. ...sigh Benoit Hediard wrote: >I don't see the point of this licensing change. > >With the old licensing: >Business case A- people requiring a 2CPU license could buy it for $12 000, >Business case B- people requiring a 4CPU licence could buy it for $24 000, >Business case C- people requiring a 4CPU license + Gold support could buy >it >for more than ~$29 000. > >Everybody were happy. > >With the new licensing: >Business case A- not anymore...??? >Business case B- not anymore...??? >Business case C (starter kit???)- people requiring a 4CPU license + Gold >support could buy it for $29 000 (no big change compared to old licensing) > >This new pricing looks really strange to me, I don't see any improvement, >it >answers less business cases. >The contrary would have been a much clever move: >Business case D - people requiring a 1CPU license could buy it for $6 000 >(a >real starter kit...). > >I suppose that Macromedia made some statistics/business plan before to >confirm this new pricing (but it looks like they are going to loose so many >opportunities). > >Flex was already very difficult to sell based on its old price. > >Strange... I don't understand... > >Ben > >-----Message d'origine----- >De : Sjors Pals [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Envoy� : jeudi 31 mars 2005 16:18 >� : [email protected] >Objet : Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price > > >4CPU? Why on earth would someone like to use that on precompiled stuff? > >Regards, > >Sjors Pals > > >Michel Jansen wrote: > > Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
