Re: [flexcoders] OpenLaszlo.org supports Flex, Silverlight, AJAX, soon Quicktime, and also DHTML and W3C

[Robert Thompson]

I agree, I doubt it would happen, and MS isn't very successful at  
buying out large companies due to "perceived risk" of getting into a  
Sherman Act type of thing again.

I'd rather Apple not also, I'm abandoning Adobe unless I hear  
something different.

If I can't get my money back from purchases, I'll just let it go, and  
do Audio Unit and NVIDIA CUDO programming on Mac OS X.  I have an 8- 
core 3.4, 32GB, 4 bay 300GBx15krpm RAID0, dual 30" with NVIDIA 5500.

The things that I'm working on as an accepted CUDO developer are  
amazing.

I hope to encourage Papervision3D to add support for CUDO and to go  
out on their own and develop their own plug-in.

NOW is the perfect TIME for Papervision3D to do this, not later.

I'd be a happy camper then and hide 9 of my fingers for a second a  
send the photoship to Ablwme Corp. whom just a week ago I continiued  
to love....not after what I've discovered in the past few days.

-r


On Aug 30, 2008, at 10:59 PM, Sherif Abdou wrote:


Apple will not buy Adobe, Microsoft would not let it without a fight  
and $22.7 billion is a big chunk of change and that's just the  
market cap now add a premium and they are looking at $30billion,  
that's amost 20% of Apple's market cap. Also, I really don't want  
them to ruin everything, i dont wana end up saying IFlash , IFlex,  
IPhotoshop :)
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Thompson
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] OpenLaszlo.org supports Flex, Silverlight,  
AJAX, soon Quicktime, and also DHTML and W3C

Actually the rumor was and may still be that Apple will buy Adobe.


Now that would be good news to me.

Steven Jobs is the one figure I've been following since I was a kid.

Out of all the CEO's from the old Borland, to Microsoft, to Zinc  
(when AOL was a little DOS app.), he seems to be the only one to  
maintain a calm integrity and come out on top.

You can see it when he gives a speech.

Steve Ballmer when to school here in my home state of Michigan and  
Country Day Prep academy (unfortunately with my attorney when to  
school with him at the same time in my "thing" which is described  
not by me but by someone writing about the Federal Circuit of  
appeals; they went to school together in '72 '74) and Ballmer is  
still on the board.

Can you ever imagine the cool and calm Jobs doing a dance like Steve  
Ballmer did - the contrast is amazing to anyone who's Scene7 or more  
Jobs' speeches.

In any event, I put Apple over every other company -- that's just me  
-- may not be others, so it's all good, don't flame me.

But I've spent nearly $5,000 on Adobe software and I'd like to  
return every bit of it if this chosen date by them of Sept. 11th  
Webinar proves to be what I think it is.

I'm sure they're listening and may put a spin on it, but please, for  
your own sakes, do not trust any Corporations words, trust only the  
Actions they take.  Take it from a 40 year old telling a 20-25 year  
old, please use your talents wisely and be careful who you dedicate  
yourself too.  Ultimately, you should dedicate yourself to you and  
your family, if you have one, and take the route that will keep your  
investment in time and money safe.  If your a 9-5'er, and I know a  
lot of them in this Big3 area, there are different kinds of risks,  
that have a lot less to do with Flex (usually those are the people  
that had bosses shell out the $20,000 or so, I forget the exact  
price, for FLEX 1.0).

-r

On Aug 30, 2008, at 6:50 PM, Paul Andrews wrote:

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Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] OpenLaszlo.org supports Flex,  
Silverlight, AJAX,
soon Quicktime, and also DHTML and W3C

> There is a different way to look at this. Right now, Flash is  
still just
> and "on-line" technology in the view of most people. Even though  
AIR
> does a lot of things, people still don't think it is very  
important.
> Similar problem that Microsoft had with VB being considered only a
> desktop tech and almost none taking it seriously as a server until
> Microsoft built server based applications.
>
> For me, Mass appeal of AIR is huge! It would mean that I can push  
Flex
> as a Desktop as well as a Web application. It becomes the  
replacement
> for VB and .net which then lets me solidify the build once/deploy
> everywhere that we have been talking about since the early Java  
days.
>
> I understand your concern that Adobe is doing similar things as  
you are
> however, Micorsoft, IBM, Oracle and most others also make a lot of
> applications that are similar to what their developers build  
also. The
> difference is customization as well as usage. I think if Adobe can
> produce good desktop and Web applications that we can showcase,  
we will
> be able to move the market away from Microsoft and Sun and  
increase the
> viability of using Flex in corporations.
>
> For me, at my company we were choosing between Silverlight,  
JavaFX, Doja
> and Flex. It was the fact that Microsoft had released Photoshop  
Express
> that helped to sell Flex.

Scary. Microsoft just bought Adobe. Shriek!

The development world is big and Adobe consulting doesn't come  
cheap, so I
think there's those that can afford the cream of the crop no matter  
what the
cost and then there's the rest of the world that have budgets, so  
there's
always going to be room for everyone.

Paul

> That is my .02.
>
>
> Robert Thompson wrote:
>>
>> I agree. Let's see what happens.
>>
>>
>> Everyone here is an individual that can judge for themselves.
>>
>> I myself and quite concerned.
>>
>> I hope to be more informed than the Press Releases, White-paper  
and
>> list of Clients already served by Adobe with a solution akin to  
the
>> "Hybrid" or "Flex Store" and based on a high-performance platform.
>>
>> Great. But where does that FLEX mass-appeal product leave the
>> developers.
>>
>> If Scene7.com did it themselves great. But Adobe has purchased  
them,
>> the CEO of Adobe resigned about the same time, and now we have a  
new
>> Adobe who is building a hybrid lightweight operating system in AIR
>> that I have been very excited about in the past in my posts  
here, and
>> in an OpenGL display framework (Papervision3D to the rescue),  
but now
>> Adobe has just added a new dimension to all of  
this....competition in
>> a very real sense against a developer, for example, bidding for a
>> Small Running Shoe company. Do they choose Adobe Scene7 or do they
>> choose a developer? Probably Adobe.
>>
>> A ran 8:52 for the 3200m in college, All SEC twice, and NCAA
>> Division-1, 3rd place championship team, and had a good running
>> career, which is why I brought up the example of a running shoe  
store.
>>
>> -r
>>
>> **