Again back to my original question. What does the language have to do with using this modelling tool? If, as you say, you're not interested in code generation?
You're confusing the WHAT with the HOW. -- Dave Wolf Cynergy Systems, Inc. Adobe Flex Alliance Partner http://www.cynergysystems.com http://www.cynergysystems.com/blogs Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: 866-CYNERGY --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Thomas R�hl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Dave, for example OmondoUML: > http://www.omondo.com > > I have to admit that I'm a little out of date myself regarding Java, but > as far as I hear from my colleagues, the above should work really cool. > > Cheers, Thomas > > ------------------------------------ > > Thomas R�hl > Design, Programming & Concepts > > akitogo OHG > Hanauer Landstrasse 188 > 60314 Frankfurt > > Telefon +49 (0) 69 800 69 445 > Fax +49 (0) 69 800 69 449 > Mobil +49 (0) 179 750 75 87 > E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Web http://www.akitogo.com > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Dave Wolf wrote: > > > > What sorts of tools are you talking about that Java has that you miss > > with Flex? > > > > -- > > Dave Wolf > > Cynergy Systems, Inc. > > Adobe Flex Alliance Partner > > http://www.cynergysystems.com <http://www.cynergysystems.com> > > http://www.cynergysystems.com/blogs <http://www.cynergysystems.com/blogs> > > > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <mailto:dave.wolf%40cynergysystems.com> > > Office: 866-CYNERGY > > > > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > > <mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com>, Thomas R�hl -akitogo- > > <thomas.ruehl@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your interest so far... but this isn't really the > > direction I > > > intended to point out. > > > > > > Dave, I know that the documentation and modelling process basically > > > doesn't depend on HOW an application is written. I'm not trying from > > > model to generated code, although it would be really neat to do so in > > > some cases ;) > > > > > > My concern is to evolve a process, starting with modelling an > > > application the "good old" way using software architecture > > > possibilities. This not only helps me to evaluate and improve an > > > application, in fact it is also important for me regarding > > documentation > > > and maintenance processes. > > > > > > Again, I do not necessarily want to generate the code based on a UML or > > > other kind of diagrams, my interest targets the development process > > > before actual implementation starts. > > > > > > As I said, for the Java world, there are lots of tools which we are > > > missing for Flex at the moment. Problem being, these tools are mostly > > > Java specific (for which I think they shouldn't), since they DO want to > > > generate code out of the model. And this is the reason I am interested > > > in how other folks do the modeling. > > > > > > Cheers, Thomas > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Thomas R�hl > > > Design, Programming & Concepts > > > > > > akitogo OHG > > > Hanauer Landstrasse 188 > > > 60314 Frankfurt > > > > > > Telefon +49 (0) 69 800 69 445 > > > Fax +49 (0) 69 800 69 449 > > > Mobil +49 (0) 179 750 75 87 > > > E-Mail thomas.ruehl@ > > > Web http://www.akitogo.com <http://www.akitogo.com> > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason wrote: > > > > > > > > There are several AS2 model2code generators such as: > > > > http://www.darronschall.com/weblog/archives/000174.cfm > > <http://www.darronschall.com/weblog/archives/000174.cfm> > > > > <http://www.darronschall.com/weblog/archives/000174.cfm > > <http://www.darronschall.com/weblog/archives/000174.cfm>> > > > > http://www.codealloy.com/umlconverter.htm > > <http://www.codealloy.com/umlconverter.htm> > > > > <http://www.codealloy.com/umlconverter.htm > > <http://www.codealloy.com/umlconverter.htm>> > > > > and some others I can't remember right now. > > > > > > > > It will just be a matter of time untill someone updates one of the > > > > projects for AS3, and ideally for Cairngorm. > > > > I poked around on sourceforge, but did not see an started project. > > > > > > > > Darron Schall my be willing to provide his source as a starting point > > > > for anyone looking to pick up the project -- it looks like he has a > > > > SVN repository set for the source. > > > > > > > > --jason > > > > > > > > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > > <mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > <mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com>, "Joost Nuijten" > > > > <flexcoders@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I think what Thomas is trying to say: > > > > > > > > > > In the Java world there are a lot of powerful tools that generate > > > > the base > > > > > skeleton of code out of a model. For the Flex world this is all hand > > > > work. > > > > > And how do we cope with this? > > > > > > > > > > That is why it is important that we have a framework such as > > > > Cairngorm. The > > > > > one thing that we do not have is an automated tool that > > generates the > > > > > Cairngorm base skeleton. > > > > > > > > > > ** thinking about creating one myself ** > > > > > > > > > > Joost > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > Van: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > > <mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > <mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > > <mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com> > > <mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com>] > > > > Namens > > > > > Dave Wolf > > > > > Verzonden: maandag 7 augustus 2006 2:33 > > > > > Aan: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > > <mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com> > > <mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > Onderwerp: [flexcoders] Re: [Flex2] What do you use for modelling a > > > > Flex2 > > > > > application...? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why does the implementation language (the HOW) have anything > > > > > significant to do with the modelling and documentation solution you > > > > > use (the WHAT) ? > > > > > > > > > > Are you trying to go from model to generated code? > > > > > > > > > > If modelling is important to your development process, tried and > > > > > trusted modelling solutions such as UML would be capable of > > > > > documenting and managing the WHAT side of the development process > > > > > regardless of the implementation HOW language. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Dave Wolf > > > > > Cynergy Systems, Inc. > > > > > Adobe Flex Alliance Partner > > > > > http://www.cynergys <http://www.cynergysystems.com > > <http://www.cynergysystems.com> > > > > <http://www.cynergysystems.com <http://www.cynergysystems.com>>> > > ystems.com > > > > > http://www.cynergys <http://www.cynergysystems.com/blogs > > <http://www.cynergysystems.com/blogs> > > > > <http://www.cynergysystems.com/blogs > > <http://www.cynergysystems.com/blogs>>> > > > > ystems.com/blogs > > > > > > > > > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:dave.wolf%40cynergysystems.com> > > > > stems.com > > > > > Office: 866-CYNERGY > > > > > > > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > ups.com, > > > > > Thomas R�hl -akitogo- > > > > > <thomas.ruehl@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi folks, > > > > > > > > > > > > it's been a while now, since the Flex2 SDK is out and rockin' ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > Not only for larger projects, multiple teams or team members and > > > > > > documentation purpose, I'd like to know, what everyone is > > using for > > > > > > modelling a Flex application. For the Java world I know, the tools > > > > > > available are very powerful and work very well out of the box and > > > > > > integrate with each other. There are also things like OmondoUML, > > > > which > > > > > > we can be used for designing Java apps (doing use case and > > sequential > > > > > > diagram sort of stuff) in conjunction with creating the > > > > > corresponding code. > > > > > > > > > > > > The lack of Flex-specific tools for that kind of work still leads > > > > > > towards endless times spent on the drawing table - at least on my > > > > side.. > > > > > > > > > > > > So, the question coming up my mind is, in what ways do you all > > design > > > > > > your Flex applications before/during or after implementation, if > > > > any....? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, Thomas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > Thomas R�hl > > > > > > Design, Programming & Concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > akitogo OHG > > > > > > Hanauer Landstrasse 188 > > > > > > 60314 Frankfurt > > > > > > > > > > > > Telefon +49 (0) 69 800 69 445 > > > > > > Fax +49 (0) 69 800 69 449 > > > > > > Mobil +49 (0) 179 750 75 87 > > > > > > E-Mail thomas.ruehl@ > > > > > > Web http://www.akitogo. <http://www.akitogo.com > > <http://www.akitogo.com> > > > > <http://www.akitogo.com <http://www.akitogo.com>>> com > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! 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