RE: [Junk E-Mail - LOW] [flexcoders] Re: Choice of backend systems - which provides

Thu, 24 Aug 2006 19:50:50 -0700

I must warn though, Jrun seems to be a forgotten child of adobe at the moment.
The recent private beta test was a bit, shall we say, lacking of support for issues.
 
4.5 has yet to be released but i can verify its got AMF3.
 
Regards,
 
Bjorn Schultheiss
Senior Flash Developer
QDC Technologies
 

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On 8/24/06, Bjorn Schultheiss <bjorn.schultheiss@qdc.net.au> wrote:
Hank,
 
I might be off track a bit here but FDS is not the only Adobe Server option for use of Remoting.
JRun 4.5 update has the new AMF3 update, as does coldfusion and then there will be the open source alternatives that will pop-up.


This is interesting. I dont know much about jrun. I use tomcat and am a little scared about being locked into jrun, but if jrun has remoting built in then that might be a valid solution. I havent heard much about this. Can you tell me more?

40k just for Remoting is ugly, but my guess is there are alternatives.
In terms of FDS it is the DataSync that really takes my fancy ;)


I agree that the 40k is worth it for the sync features.

Regards,
 
Bjorn Schultheiss
Senior Flash Developer
QDC Technologies
 

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On 8/24/06, Bjorn Schultheiss <bjorn.schultheiss@qdc.net.au> wrote:
Not Neccesarily.
When you start talking dedicated server prices can get quite high.
Chassis, Power Supplies, Bandwidth man the costs keep going up.

Hmm... bundling hosting/bandwidth costs into the cost of the server is really a slippery slope. I was refering to one time costs. And its *hard* to spend more than 5k on a 1 cpu server. Of course if you need a 20 terrabyte raid thats another thing. But that would not be normal. Of course *all* the costs of doing business could be applied as a form of burden on your technology implementation and the analysis just becomes silly.
 

With FDS i think the alternative is how much will it cost your development team to produce the same result using another method.
 
My take, I will be using FDS in our v2 development of our Application.

My point is not that FDS is good and worth using for many applications. My point is that for the cost of remoting (not all the other FDS features) to go from $1000 (the old remoting price) to $20,000 per server for apps that need to scale beyond one server is insane, and that when my app, which only uses remoting, gets to the point where it needs to scale, I will probably switch remoting technologies since it will be more cost effective than the $40,000 (for two servers) that I will need to spend.

$40,000 as the entry price for a scalable solution is really too much for my blood. For many companies 40k is nothing. But that aint me.

Regards,
Hank


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