""I really hate it when someone makes a comment like Flex front end is
web 2.0..Web 2.0 is not about RIA, web 2.0 is about collaboration. "
 
I disagree.  According to the article quoted, "What Is Web 2.0",
(http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/oreilly/tim/news/2005/09/30/what-is-web
-20.html
<http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/oreilly/tim/news/2005/09/30/what-is-web
-20.html> ) written by tim O'Reilly who was part of the same group who
claim to have coined the term "Web 2.0", RIAs, like what Flex/Flash
provides, in fact ARE part of Web 2.0- they just aren't the ONLY
component of Web 2.0.  
 
An excerpt from page 5:  
 
7. Rich User Experiences
As early as Pei Wei's Viola browser <http://www.viola.org/>  in 1992,
the web was being used to deliver "applets" and other kinds of active
content within the web browser. Java's introduction in 1995 was framed
around the delivery of such applets. JavaScript and then DHTML were
introduced as lightweight ways to provide client side programmability
and richer user experiences. Several years ago, Macromedia coined the
term "Rich Internet Applications" (which has also been picked up by open
source Flash competitor Laszlo Systems) to highlight the capabilities of
Flash to deliver not just multimedia content but also GUI-style
application experiences...AJAX is also a key component of Web 2.0
applications such as Flickr, now part of Yahoo!....
 
They seem to impy Web 2.0 has several different components (7 or so).
Personally to me that means Web 2.0 is highly ambiguous, since it would
mean it would take in just about every new & popular trend on the web.
Maybe that's OK, I dunno, but not worth arguing about.

Jason Merrill 
Bank of America  
GT&O Learning & Leadership Development 
eTools & Multimedia Team 


 


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        From: [email protected]
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        Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 3:48 PM
        To: [email protected]
        Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: Here we go again: Flex Vs Java
        
        

        
        What is Web 2.0, by Tim O'Reilly
<http://www.oreilly.com/pub/a/oreilly/tim/news/2005/09/30/what-is-web-20
.html> 
        
        
        
        
        On 9/27/07, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: 

                

                Oh my god, I really hate it when someone makes a comment
like Flex front end is web 2.0
                 
                Web 2.0 is not about RIA, web 2.0 is about
collaboration. God forbid, you even know what Enterprise 2.0 is oh yeah
thats MS Silverlight on steriods.


                 
                On 9/27/07, gers32 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

                        First of all, a Flex front-end is Web 2.0 vs.
Web 1.0 for JSPs. I
                        recently made the switch from JSP to Flex for
that reason. Also, your
                        application will scale better if you put some of
the logic inside the
                        Client. 
                        
                        If your employer argues that he's invested a lot
in Java, that's OK
                        because you can have your Flex front-end talk to
Web Services written
                        in Java.
                        
                        As for Bruce Eckel's article, that's exactly the
one that convinced me 
                        to skip AJAX and go directly from JSP to Flex.
It also convinced my
                        boss...
                        
                        Good luck,
                        
                        Chris
                        
                        

                        




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