----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Josh McDonald 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:25 AM
  Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Splitting FlexCoders in smaller, focused groups


  Define "enterprise" without resorting to some variation of "mo' bettah"

  What about best practices in Flex UI coding? Where do those posts go?

  And who decides what posts go in the "advanced" lists, and what go in the 
"101" list? Sounds like an invitation for grumpy nerds to flame noobs and scare 
them away from the community...

  I'm not suggesting we don't split the list at all, just that we put some 
serious thought into it first. Definitions of what belongs in what group, and a 
lot of publicly available information to help people locate the best list for 
their question. Maybe have some sort of community vote or something; we don't 
want to fracture the community, there's not *that* many of us yet.

  Personally I think the problems are at the moment best solved by clever inbox 
management.

+1

It would probably help if there was a useful FAQ to point people at.

For some of the posts, it would probably help if you were a mind reader.

There's a lot of traffic, but nothing I can't pick through/ignore/delete/keep.

I like the one-stop-shop that this list is and I hope we can keep tolerant of 
newbies, without list cops pushing them around the lists -  no matter how 
hopeless rudely the question is put. We were all there once and if nothing else 
the list shows we can all learn new things.

Sometimes those newbie posts refer to something completely unexpected, even if 
only in the way they perceive the product.

Paul



  -Josh


  On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Anatole Tartakovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

    Dear All,



       Flexcoders has huge problem. In the last 15 month it is very much 
stagnant in terms of message count and participation. It is not growing and 
dropping members as fast as it gets them.



       I believe this group has overgrown the optimal size about a year ago and 
needs to be divided in more focused smaller groups. My mail box get 100+ 
messages a day on all kinds of topic - unless I can spend 30+ minutes that day 
to sort them out it goes directly into garbage can. Most people in the company 
unsubscribed from it 18 month ago. Most of veteran developers I know either 
unsubscribed or stopped looking in this mess greatly diminishing the quality of 
the responses. As a result group mostly host new developers and looses most of 
experienced ones after very short period of time. 



    Further delay of breaking this group hinders usefulness of the group for 
all of us as now we have significant amount of users that are being forced out. 
I believe it is time to archive flexcoders and branch (12?) targeted new user 
groups


    I would like to see people suggesting user subgroups and WiKi topics for 
Flex community site to go with each group - providing best posts in more 
systematic way.


    I suggest the following Yahoo groups ( created couple for your 
convenience). 


    Flex101: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/flex101/
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    EnterpriseFlex: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/enterpriseflex/
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    FlexUI
    FlexDesign


    FlexSDK
    FlexDeployment


    FlexFlash


    FlexFrameworks


    FlexBestPractices


    EnterpriseFlex:


    FlexBlazeDS:


    weborb:


    Sincerely,
    Anatole Tartakovsky
    Farata Systems













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