Oh yeah, one last thing; Looking in my inbox I see one cross post;
Struts and Hiberante This was posted on flexcoders and flexcomponens. What does struts and hibernate have to do with flexcomponents. If you read on flexcomponents it explicitly says what that is for. No, this person just wants an answer. Splitting this group will just increase cross posting and decrease quality. Not everybody cares about the right thing, they care about getting passed what is holding them up. Mike On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 7:28 AM, Michael Schmalle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Josh, > > Threads that get over 30 seem to get muddled. You talking to me? > > My opinion is splitting up this list won't help. Why do I know this? In my > previous post, flexcomponents list is a ghost town, why, devs will ask on > flexcoders because that is 'where we ask'. > > I was part of the group (professional component developers) back in 2006 > that got flexcomponents list created, I am actually a moderator on that > list. But, people don't read. Putting up a FAQ or sending it to people won't > help because people don't read! :) > > These ridiculous questions mainly are because people don't read manuals > like the veterans did (when we were "inspired"). > > Once you get a technology stable like flex and we are out of the betas > (2006), it becomes a 'get it done and make money'. The people that answer > questions are the ones that read the manual. > > Anyway, this is it for me. :) > > Mike > > > > On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 6:59 AM, Josh McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Sure there are people who are probably 16year olds who don't think >> before they post, but there's nothing we can do about that, splitting lists >> up won't help that :) >> >> -Josh >> >> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Michael Schmalle < >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> > no matter how hopeless rudely the question is put. >>> >>> Subject :: NED helllllllllllp plzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!! >>> >>> I didn't even talk to my mom like that. ;-) >>> >>> I know there are hundreds of cultures out there but common, isn't this >>> about simple and respectful language protocol? >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 6:39 AM, Paul Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> >>>> *From:* Josh McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:25 AM >>>> *Subject:* Re: [flexcoders] Splitting FlexCoders in smaller, focused >>>> groups >>>> >>>> Define "enterprise" without resorting to some variation of "mo' bettah" >>>> >>>> What about best practices in Flex UI coding? Where do those posts go? >>>> >>>> And who decides what posts go in the "advanced" lists, and what go in >>>> the "101" list? Sounds like an invitation for grumpy nerds to flame noobs >>>> and scare them away from the community... >>>> >>>> I'm not suggesting we don't split the list at all, just that we put some >>>> serious thought into it first. Definitions of what belongs in what group, >>>> and a lot of publicly available information to help people locate the best >>>> list for their question. Maybe have some sort of community vote or >>>> something; we don't want to fracture the community, there's not *that* many >>>> of us yet. >>>> >>>> Personally I think the problems are at the moment best solved by clever >>>> inbox management. >>>> >>>> >>>> +1 >>>> >>>> It would probably help if there was a useful FAQ to point people at. >>>> >>>> For some of the posts, it would probably help if you were a mind reader. >>>> >>>> There's a lot of traffic, but nothing I can't pick >>>> through/ignore/delete/keep. >>>> >>>> I like the one-stop-shop that this list is and I hope we can keep >>>> tolerant of newbies, without list cops pushing them around the lists - no >>>> matter how hopeless rudely the question is put. We were all there once and >>>> if nothing else the list shows we can all learn new things. >>>> >>>> Sometimes those newbie posts refer to something completely unexpected, >>>> even if only in the way they perceive the product. >>>> >>>> Paul >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -Josh >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Anatole Tartakovsky < >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear All, >>>>> >>>>> Flexcoders has huge problem. In the last 15 month it is very much >>>>> stagnant in terms of message count and participation. It is not growing >>>>> and >>>>> dropping members as fast as it gets them. >>>>> >>>>> I believe this group has overgrown the optimal size about a year ago >>>>> and needs to be divided in more focused smaller groups. My mail box get >>>>> 100+ >>>>> messages a day on all kinds of topic - unless I can spend 30+ minutes that >>>>> day to sort them out it goes directly into garbage can. Most people in the >>>>> company unsubscribed from it 18 month ago. Most of veteran developers I >>>>> know >>>>> either unsubscribed or stopped looking in this mess greatly diminishing >>>>> the >>>>> quality of the responses. As a result group mostly host new developers and >>>>> looses most of experienced ones after very short period of time. >>>>> >>>>> Further delay of breaking this group hinders usefulness of the group >>>>> for all of us as now we have significant amount of users that are being >>>>> forced out. I believe it is time to archive flexcoders and branch (12?) >>>>> targeted new user groups >>>>> >>>>> I would like to see people suggesting user subgroups and WiKi topics >>>>> for Flex community site to go with each group - providing best posts in >>>>> more >>>>> systematic way. >>>>> >>>>> I suggest the following Yahoo groups ( created couple for your >>>>> convenience). >>>>> >>>>> Flex101: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/flex101/ >>>>> >>>>> Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> >>>>> Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> >>>>> Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> >>>>> List owner: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> >>>>> EnterpriseFlex: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/enterpriseflex/ >>>>> >>>>> Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> >>>>> Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> >>>>> Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> >>>>> List owner: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> >>>>> FlexUI >>>>> FlexDesign >>>>> >>>>> FlexSDK >>>>> FlexDeployment >>>>> >>>>> FlexFlash >>>>> >>>>> FlexFrameworks >>>>> >>>>> FlexBestPractices >>>>> >>>>> EnterpriseFlex: >>>>> >>>>> FlexBlazeDS: >>>>> >>>>> weborb: >>>>> >>>>> Sincerely, >>>>> Anatole Tartakovsky >>>>> Farata Systems >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> "Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls. It tolls for >>>> thee." >>>> >>>> :: Josh 'G-Funk' McDonald >>>> :: 0437 221 380 :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Teoti Graphix, LLC >>> http://www.teotigraphix.com >>> >>> Teoti Graphix Blog >>> http://www.blog.teotigraphix.com >>> >>> You can find more by solving the problem then by 'asking the question'. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> "Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls. It tolls for thee." >> >> :: Josh 'G-Funk' McDonald >> :: 0437 221 380 :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > > > > -- > Teoti Graphix, LLC > http://www.teotigraphix.com > > Teoti Graphix Blog > http://www.blog.teotigraphix.com > > You can find more by solving the problem then by 'asking the question'. > -- Teoti Graphix, LLC http://www.teotigraphix.com Teoti Graphix Blog http://www.blog.teotigraphix.com You can find more by solving the problem then by 'asking the question'.
