Josh, Threads that get over 30 seem to get muddled. You talking to me?
My opinion is splitting up this list won't help. Why do I know this? In my previous post, flexcomponents list is a ghost town, why, devs will ask on flexcoders because that is 'where we ask'. I was part of the group (professional component developers) back in 2006 that got flexcomponents list created, I am actually a moderator on that list. But, people don't read. Putting up a FAQ or sending it to people won't help because people don't read! :) These ridiculous questions mainly are because people don't read manuals like the veterans did (when we were "inspired"). Once you get a technology stable like flex and we are out of the betas (2006), it becomes a 'get it done and make money'. The people that answer questions are the ones that read the manual. Anyway, this is it for me. :) Mike On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 6:59 AM, Josh McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sure there are people who are probably 16year olds who don't think > before they post, but there's nothing we can do about that, splitting lists > up won't help that :) > > -Josh > > On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Michael Schmalle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> > no matter how hopeless rudely the question is put. >> >> Subject :: NED helllllllllllp plzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!! >> >> I didn't even talk to my mom like that. ;-) >> >> I know there are hundreds of cultures out there but common, isn't this >> about simple and respectful language protocol? >> >> Mike >> >> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 6:39 AM, Paul Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >>> *From:* Josh McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:25 AM >>> *Subject:* Re: [flexcoders] Splitting FlexCoders in smaller, focused >>> groups >>> >>> Define "enterprise" without resorting to some variation of "mo' bettah" >>> >>> What about best practices in Flex UI coding? Where do those posts go? >>> >>> And who decides what posts go in the "advanced" lists, and what go in the >>> "101" list? Sounds like an invitation for grumpy nerds to flame noobs and >>> scare them away from the community... >>> >>> I'm not suggesting we don't split the list at all, just that we put some >>> serious thought into it first. Definitions of what belongs in what group, >>> and a lot of publicly available information to help people locate the best >>> list for their question. Maybe have some sort of community vote or >>> something; we don't want to fracture the community, there's not *that* many >>> of us yet. >>> >>> Personally I think the problems are at the moment best solved by clever >>> inbox management. >>> >>> >>> +1 >>> >>> It would probably help if there was a useful FAQ to point people at. >>> >>> For some of the posts, it would probably help if you were a mind reader. >>> >>> There's a lot of traffic, but nothing I can't pick >>> through/ignore/delete/keep. >>> >>> I like the one-stop-shop that this list is and I hope we can keep >>> tolerant of newbies, without list cops pushing them around the lists - no >>> matter how hopeless rudely the question is put. We were all there once and >>> if nothing else the list shows we can all learn new things. >>> >>> Sometimes those newbie posts refer to something completely unexpected, >>> even if only in the way they perceive the product. >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -Josh >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Anatole Tartakovsky < >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear All, >>>> >>>> Flexcoders has huge problem. In the last 15 month it is very much >>>> stagnant in terms of message count and participation. It is not growing and >>>> dropping members as fast as it gets them. >>>> >>>> I believe this group has overgrown the optimal size about a year ago >>>> and needs to be divided in more focused smaller groups. My mail box get >>>> 100+ >>>> messages a day on all kinds of topic - unless I can spend 30+ minutes that >>>> day to sort them out it goes directly into garbage can. Most people in the >>>> company unsubscribed from it 18 month ago. Most of veteran developers I >>>> know >>>> either unsubscribed or stopped looking in this mess greatly diminishing the >>>> quality of the responses. As a result group mostly host new developers and >>>> looses most of experienced ones after very short period of time. >>>> >>>> Further delay of breaking this group hinders usefulness of the group for >>>> all of us as now we have significant amount of users that are being forced >>>> out. I believe it is time to archive flexcoders and branch (12?) targeted >>>> new user groups >>>> >>>> I would like to see people suggesting user subgroups and WiKi topics for >>>> Flex community site to go with each group - providing best posts in more >>>> systematic way. >>>> >>>> I suggest the following Yahoo groups ( created couple for your >>>> convenience). >>>> >>>> Flex101: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/flex101/ >>>> >>>> Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>>> Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>>> List owner: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>>> EnterpriseFlex: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/enterpriseflex/ >>>> >>>> Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>>> Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>>> List owner: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>>> FlexUI >>>> FlexDesign >>>> >>>> FlexSDK >>>> FlexDeployment >>>> >>>> FlexFlash >>>> >>>> FlexFrameworks >>>> >>>> FlexBestPractices >>>> >>>> EnterpriseFlex: >>>> >>>> FlexBlazeDS: >>>> >>>> weborb: >>>> >>>> Sincerely, >>>> Anatole Tartakovsky >>>> Farata Systems >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> "Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls. It tolls for thee." >>> >>> :: Josh 'G-Funk' McDonald >>> :: 0437 221 380 :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Teoti Graphix, LLC >> http://www.teotigraphix.com >> >> Teoti Graphix Blog >> http://www.blog.teotigraphix.com >> >> You can find more by solving the problem then by 'asking the question'. >> > > > > -- > "Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls. It tolls for thee." > > :: Josh 'G-Funk' McDonald > :: 0437 221 380 :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Teoti Graphix, LLC http://www.teotigraphix.com Teoti Graphix Blog http://www.blog.teotigraphix.com You can find more by solving the problem then by 'asking the question'.
