Thank you for the honesty, Tim. >>This list, and the Macromedia based essence of theme for Flex that has been a huge success, doesn't care about [enterprise developers like]you or me<< I wonder how you got that impression. Are there many people that feel that way?
Flex has enterprise side to it and is promoted as enterprise grade tool. I do believe that Adobe targets that market as there are millions of java developers that are looking for new technologies to move into - with a majority of them in enterprise field. How they perceive the product and support does affect you and me in (hopefully) long run. Anyway, enterpriseflex group is created, anyone is welcome to join. I will post formal invitation with list of the topics it will cover as soon as all facets are ready and tested Thank you, Anatole Tartakovsky Thank you On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 3:40 AM, Tim Hoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'll tell you honestly Anatole, I've been an enterprise developer for > 25 years. From EDLIN to Flex, I've seen it; so please don't propose that > you have some un-known insight to software development. This list, and the > Macromedia based essence of theme for Flex that has been a huge success, > doesn't care about you or me. I appreciate that you have been able to > benefit from Flex's success; but I question the motive to try and tell Adobe > how to run their business. If you like the product, cool. If you don't, > step off. > > -TH > > --- In [email protected], "Anatole Tartakovsky" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I guess, the majority of the group tends to like the way things are now. > > That is hardly surprising given initial posting that most people who do > not > > like the current solution would unsubscribe. > > It also came to the light that enterprise developers have some > restrictions > > in selection of the client (email) software and problems with getting too > > many messages. It is also obvious ( by monitoring the messages for few > month > > back) that the questions on "enterprise" topics are rarely followed and > > some design questions are answered on a different level then the original > > question. As a result, we see fewer of such messages > > lately. Potentially, enterprise part of Flex business might not be > getting > > fare share of attention. > > > > So, here is the question - if we create separate list to see the need for > > enterprise list - would Adobe be willing to include links to it in the > usual > > places/promote it/assign moderators? > > > > Sincerely, > > Anatole Tartakovsky > > Farata Systems > > On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 6:01 PM, dnk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > > On 19-Jun-08, at 2:03 PM, brucewhealton wrote: > > > > > > Maybe we need groups for different users at different experience > > > levels. I think this list is so big that it is hard to find a > > > response or thread, especially when one posts a question and wants to > > > find out if someone responded. I have to look and look to see if I > > > can find that thread anywhere, and it gets confusing when one sees so > > > many similar, though different threads. I'd like a feature to show me > > > threads that include messages where I've posted comments, questions, > > > or etc. > > > > > > > > > I tend to be one that prefers one list, and monitoring all things.... > (I > > > like to see what is out there and what else is going on with the tech > on all > > > levels). However with a little thought about this, the reality is this, > if > > > it stays as one, most are creating rules to manage or delete, etc. > anyways. > > > If we split, the same applies in some form or another. no one will ever > be > > > happy on all levels. > > > > > > So if the powers that be decide to split, go for it.... I will just > > > subscribe to all the relevant ones I wish to monitor and organize how i > want > > > (probably all dumped into a flex folder as it is now). But it gives > those > > > who wish for more relevance more power to do so. Either way I can sort > and > > > have the exact same info in my inbox. It just gives those who want a > more > > > targeted inbox the ability to do so. My only suggestion is to not over > > > split. Pick your 5-10 (or what ever the magic number seems to be) and > go for > > > it. > > > > > > It is all a matter or preference, but one way (to split to a point) > seems > > > to offer more flexibility. > > > > > > Not even $0.02...... but.... > > > > > > dnk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
