Good enough, best of luck.

-TH

--- In [email protected], "Anatole Tartakovsky"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thank you for the honesty, Tim.
> >>This list, and the Macromedia based essence of theme for Flex that
has
> been a huge success, doesn't care about [enterprise developers
like]you or
> me<<
> I wonder how you got that impression. Are there many people that feel
that
> way?
>
> Flex has enterprise side to it and is promoted as enterprise grade
tool. I
> do believe that Adobe targets that market as there are millions of
java
> developers that are looking for new technologies to move into - with a
> majority of them in enterprise field. How they perceive the product
and
> support does affect you and me in (hopefully) long run.
>
> Anyway, enterpriseflex group is created, anyone is welcome to join. I
will
> post formal invitation with list of the topics it will cover as soon
as all
> facets are ready and tested
>
> Thank you,
> Anatole Tartakovsky
>
>
>
> Thank you
> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 3:40 AM, Tim Hoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > I'll tell you honestly Anatole, I've been an enterprise developer
for
> > 25 years. From EDLIN to Flex, I've seen it; so please don't propose
that
> > you have some un-known insight to software development. This list,
and the
> > Macromedia based essence of theme for Flex that has been a huge
success,
> > doesn't care about you or me. I appreciate that you have been able
to
> > benefit from Flex's success; but I question the motive to try and
tell Adobe
> > how to run their business. If you like the product, cool. If you
don't,
> > step off.
> >
> > -TH
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "Anatole Tartakovsky"
> > anatole.tartakovsky@ wrote:
> > >
> > > I guess, the majority of the group tends to like the way things
are now.
> > > That is hardly surprising given initial posting that most people
who do
> > not
> > > like the current solution would unsubscribe.
> > > It also came to the light that enterprise developers have some
> > restrictions
> > > in selection of the client (email) software and problems with
getting too
> > > many messages. It is also obvious ( by monitoring the messages for
few
> > month
> > > back) that the questions on "enterprise" topics are rarely
followed and
> > > some design questions are answered on a different level then the
original
> > > question. As a result, we see fewer of such messages
> > > lately. Potentially, enterprise part of Flex business might not be
> > getting
> > > fare share of attention.
> > >
> > > So, here is the question - if we create separate list to see the
need for
> > > enterprise list - would Adobe be willing to include links to it in
the
> > usual
> > > places/promote it/assign moderators?
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > > Anatole Tartakovsky
> > > Farata Systems
> > > On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 6:01 PM, dnk d.k.emaillists@ wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > On 19-Jun-08, at 2:03 PM, brucewhealton wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Maybe we need groups for different users at different experience
> > > > levels. I think this list is so big that it is hard to find a
> > > > response or thread, especially when one posts a question and
wants to
> > > > find out if someone responded. I have to look and look to see if
I
> > > > can find that thread anywhere, and it gets confusing when one
sees so
> > > > many similar, though different threads. I'd like a feature to
show me
> > > > threads that include messages where I've posted comments,
questions,
> > > > or etc.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I tend to be one that prefers one list, and monitoring all
things....
> > (I
> > > > like to see what is out there and what else is going on with the
tech
> > on all
> > > > levels). However with a little thought about this, the reality
is this,
> > if
> > > > it stays as one, most are creating rules to manage or delete,
etc.
> > anyways.
> > > > If we split, the same applies in some form or another. no one
will ever
> > be
> > > > happy on all levels.
> > > >
> > > > So if the powers that be decide to split, go for it.... I will
just
> > > > subscribe to all the relevant ones I wish to monitor and
organize how i
> > want
> > > > (probably all dumped into a flex folder as it is now). But it
gives
> > those
> > > > who wish for more relevance more power to do so. Either way I
can sort
> > and
> > > > have the exact same info in my inbox. It just gives those who
want a
> > more
> > > > targeted inbox the ability to do so. My only suggestion is to
not over
> > > > split. Pick your 5-10 (or what ever the magic number seems to
be) and
> > go for
> > > > it.
> > > >
> > > > It is all a matter or preference, but one way (to split to a
point)
> > seems
> > > > to offer more flexibility.
> > > >
> > > > Not even $0.02...... but....
> > > >
> > > > dnk
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>



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