Very well said Bill. I have been sitting here contemplating writing
something to this obviously very unhappy gentleman but I could not come
up with anything that was evenly tempered between my compassion for the
fact that he is having the problems he is and my anger and contempt at
his labeling the 3K "a blue piece of junk". Even with the CW issues,
which as you say, have been well publicized the advantages of the Flex
line of radios far far outweigh the disadvantages. I'm not a CW only
kind of guy so I am willing to wait for Flex to get things straightened
out in that department and I'm sure they will. Nothing they have ever
done or said indicates to me that the CW issue isn't very high on their
list of priorities.
All I can say is let these folks who just "have to have flawless CW
right this very minute" sell their Flex rigs and buy one of the inferior
rigs they seem to covet so badly. Their loss.
73,
Michael, W4HIJ
On 2/16/2011 8:42 PM, William H. Fite wrote:
Dear VH,
I think you have to expect that when you post angry, querulous messages on a
reflector where 99% of the are quite satisfied with their Flex radios--yes,
warts and all--that you are going to get some pushback. Anytime one finds
oneself a tiny minority, there is going to be some tendency on the part of
the huge majority to discount, disregard, and dismiss one's plaints. I've
been there, myself, and I didn't like it anymore than you are liking it
here.
I do give you much credit for having the grace (and the honesty) not to
dismiss us all as mindless fanbois. Because we're not. Mostly, we're a
pretty hard-headed bunch not given to blind adulation of radios or anything
else.
I should speak only for myself but I will go out on a limb and say that most
everyone here is sympathetic to your difficulties. That being said, the CW
difficulties with the software have been well known and extensively
documented for a long, long time. Flex has made no secret of them, in fact
has entered quite openly into dialogue with users having CW problems. I
find it *extremely* improbable that, if you did any kind of in-depth
research at all about the Flex range you didn't hear anything about CW
issues. The bottom line for me is that either you didn't investigate before
laying down your cash or else you knew the problems were there and bought,
anyway. Either way, it is hard to feel too much compassion for you. Anyone
who buys a pig in a poke has no kick coming if they open the poke and find a
puppy instead of a porker. On the other side of the coin, Flex has not made
any promises about when the CW problems would be resolved. You may be
convinced that they are way too slow, but they certainly cannot be accused
of false advertising. Cannot be *credibly* accused, anyway...
So long as you concur in the dismissal of a hugely popular radio as "that
blue piece of junk," you can expect relatively little respect from others on
the reflector. It is a bloody shame that you are unhappy with your 3K but
that does not make it--and, in fact, it is not--a piece of junk.
I'm sure we all hope that you are happier with whatever you choose to
replace your Flex.
Bill
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 3:50 PM, TheVillageHam<[email protected]>wrote:
I've been waiting 18 months already and there are many more who have been
waiting a lot longer.
Ask yourself this, would you buy a new car, have it delivered only to find
that the engine didn't work, and then when the garage tells you they are
"working on it" and "it will be fixed sometime in the future" put the car
back in the garage and wait months and months more in the hope that perhaps
one day the garage may get the engine running?
I think not and quite rightly so.
On 16/02/11 18:00, [email protected] wrote:
Message: 20
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 07:39:21 -0800
From: Dave Gomberg<[email protected]>
To:"[email protected]"<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FlexEdge] CW and an F3K sitting on the shelf for 18
months.
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At 12:25 AM 2/16/2011, TheVillageHam wrote:
v1.18.6 drops characters and the side tone delay is ridiculous to
the point where it actually affects the CW being sent due to it
being so far behind. v2.x also drops characters, has the same side
tone delay and NR/ANF/NB don't work.
Full break-in CW doesn't work on any version.
There is a lot of truth in what you say.
>.....
When my friends visit they say to me "Why do you still have that
blue piece of junk on your shelf?"
I have to explain to them that I can't sell it because no one wants
it due to the poor reputation they have in Europe.
You need to find a buyer who uses phone predominately. These are
stellar radios for SSB. I think they
are quite nice for digital modes too, but not being a user of same
(yet), I can't comment.
I am pretty sure they will be great for CW someday too. But it will
take several months for that to happen.
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