... while all these wonderful *uiuc-set.xml airplanes are now being buried 
alive, I have a few simple questions (multiple choice):

What is the variable that dictates where the little green HUD center dot 
goes?  (OK, things in the uiuc_gear code have an effect on this mystery 
variable, but the uiuc_gear code has not changed.  Something getting 
stuffed to uiuc_gear has changed(?).)

In the recent past did we use +z down, and now we're using +z up (with 
respect to the view code and this pesky little green dot)?

[a] Given that things did work and now they don't, and
[b] given that JSBSim models do not have these problems
while the UIUC models now do
(as does LaRCsim C172 which at first I thought was OK!),
does this give anyone clues that they could give to me?

Who can raise their hand and say: "I changed XYZ code.  Go here ..."

For extra credit --- Am I getting warm?  :)

Thanks!

(Andy, Thanks for your comments.)

At 4/11/02, you wrote:
>The convention for moving models for flight simulation visual system
>is for the origin to be at the CG location for aircraft models. The
>coordinate system that we use on our "heavy iron" visual system is +y
>out the nose, +x to the right and +z up. For an industry disertation on
>the subject there is a paper on the MultiGen site located at:
>http://www.multigen.com/support/dc_files/wrm.pdf
>
>enjoy
>
>Andy Ross wrote:
> >
> > Michael Selig wrote:
> >  > I can ask this differently.  What sets the height above the runway of
> >  > the hud-ladder target spot (wrt the 3D model view) --- ie the center
> >  > spot?  For c310-yasim and c172-larcsim, it's above the runway.  For
> >  > UIUC models, it's below the runway (a recent change).
> >
> > Where are you placing the coordinate origin of the aircraft?  There
> > was a confusion/unification about this recently, with the consensus
> > being that the origin should be, by convention, at the front of the
> > aircraft (either the nose or the firewall, depending on who you ask).
> > Strictly, the coordinate origin of the aircraft and the 3D model
> > should be exactly coincident (or as coincident as practical, given
> > that there are multiple FDMs and a model file that all have to agree).
> >
> > If the UIUC models are reporting an altitude of zero while on the
> > ground, you'll see this effect.  The real altitude should be a few
> > feet -- however high the nose rests off the ground.
> >
> > Andy
> >
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