On Thu, 2002-09-19 at 05:27, David Megginson wrote:
> Tony Peden writes:
> 
>  > > My suggestion is that c172.xml (and --aircraft=c172) would disappear
>  > > altogether, and we'd have c172p.xml and c172r.xml instead.
>  > 
>  > I don't really object to that -- except that I wonder how many folks
>  > will be able to really tell the difference.  Surely, even in the real
>  > thing, the differences are fairly subtle. I'm also not so sure that we
>  > have the fidelity that making that distinction implies.
> 
> It's worth thinking beyond the basic aerodynamics, though.  For
> example, the stock 172P has an O320 engine instead of the 172R's
> IO360, so the engine startup sequence and inflight engine management
> (once we model them correctly) are significantly different.

Good point.
>  The 172R
> climbs more aggressively and flares longer than the 172P, but it also
> has a smaller useful load.

That's fairly subtle.

>  Most noticeably, however, the 172R's IO360
> is derated to 2400RPM, while the 172P's engine develops the more
> typical 2700RPM, so all of the power settings are different.
> 
> I agree that a first-time user will have trouble telling the two apart
> by their handling, but then, a non-pilot first-time user would have
> trouble distinguishing the flying characteristics of the 172 from
> those of a PA-28 or Musketeer anyway.
> 
> The nice thing about modelling the two 172s is that we are
> representing the 172 just before and just after the long hiatus in
> U.S. small-aircraft production.  The 1980 172P and the 1997 (?) 172R
> are quite different birds in many ways: the 172P represents the end of
> a long, continuous cycle of 172 development dating back to the 1950s,
> while the 172R represents a new plane that Cessna built to resemble
> the old 172s.  I've noticed that many flying clubs and schools require
> a separate check-out for the 172R.

I hadn't considered differences in procedures ... that's a valid point
of distinction and something that pilots would (or, at least, should)
notice.

Does the R have a 40 deg flap detent?

> 
> 
> All the best,
> 
> 
> David
> 
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