Something like this is right along the lines of what I had hoped the JSBSim
FCS components would be used for. I'll be anxious to try it out.

Also, this is where a good GUI editor would come in handy.  At the least, I
have thought about writing a program that would parse the FCS file and write
out a flight control block diagram.  Someday ...

Jon

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hof Markus
> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 7:57 AM
> To: FlightGear developers discussions
> Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autocoordination : Derivatives in FCS
>
>
> Now I've fixed bank hold mode. here are some parts you want me to post. I
> made some test and error in Rollrate should be less than 0.5�
> Bank hold mode holds bank at error 0.02�
> As soon as I have fixed up pitch mode, you'll get the hole A/C for test
> flight.
>
> markus
>
>    <COMPONENT NAME="FCPC bank hold" TYPE="SWITCH">
>   <TEST LOGIC="DEFAULT" VALUE="0">
>   </TEST>
>   <TEST LOGIC="AND" VALUE="1">
>          fcs/aileron-cmd-norm <= 0.02
>          fcs/aileron-cmd-norm >= -0.02
>   </TEST>
>  </COMPONENT>
>    <COMPONENT NAME="FCPC bank hold to" TYPE="SWITCH">
>   <TEST LOGIC="AND" VALUE="attitude/roll-rad">
>          fcs/fcpc-bank-hold == 0
>   </TEST>
>  </COMPONENT>
>    <COMPONENT NAME="FCPC bank error" TYPE="SUMMER">
>        INPUT        fcs/fcpc-bank-hold-to
>     INPUT  -attitude/roll-rad
>  </COMPONENT>
>    <COMPONENT NAME="FCPC bank p" TYPE="PURE_GAIN">
>        INPUT        fcs/fcpc-bank-error
>     GAIN   3.0
>  </COMPONENT>
>    <COMPONENT NAME="FCPC bank d" TYPE="LEAD_LAG_FILTER">
>        INPUT        fcs/fcpc-bank-error
>     C1   0.05
>     C2   0.0
>     C3   0.0
>     C4   1.0
>  </COMPONENT>
>    <COMPONENT NAME="FCPC bank i" TYPE="INTEGRATOR">
>        INPUT        fcs/fcpc-bank-error
>     C1   0.005
>  </COMPONENT>
>    <COMPONENT NAME="FCPC bank total" TYPE="SUMMER">
>        INPUT        fcs/fcpc-bank-p
>        INPUT        fcs/fcpc-bank-d
>        INPUT        fcs/fcpc-bank-i
>  </COMPONENT>
>    <COMPONENT NAME="FCPC rr ss ordered grad" TYPE="PURE_GAIN">
>        INPUT        fcs/aileron-cmd-norm
>     GAIN   10.0
>  </COMPONENT>
>    <COMPONENT NAME="FCPC rr ss ordered rad" TYPE="PURE_GAIN">
>        INPUT        fcs/fcpc-rr-ss-ordered-grad
>     GAIN   0.01745329
>  </COMPONENT>
>    <COMPONENT NAME="FCPC rr ordered" TYPE="SWITCH">
>   <TEST LOGIC="DEFAULT" VALUE="fcs/fcpc-rr-ss-ordered-rad">
>   </TEST>
>   <TEST LOGIC="AND" VALUE="fcs/fcpc-bank-total">
>          fcs/fcpc-bank-hold == 1
>   </TEST>
>  </COMPONENT>
>    <COMPONENT NAME="FCPC rr error" TYPE="SUMMER">
>        INPUT        fcs/fcpc-rr-ordered
>     INPUT  -velocities/p-rad_sec
>  </COMPONENT>
>    <COMPONENT NAME="FCPC rr p" TYPE="PURE_GAIN">
>        INPUT        fcs/fcpc-rr-error
>     GAIN   15.0
>  </COMPONENT>
>    <COMPONENT NAME="FCPC rr d" TYPE="LEAD_LAG_FILTER">
>        INPUT        fcs/fcpc-rr-error
>     C1   0.25
>     C2   0.0
>     C3   0.0
>     C4   1.0
>  </COMPONENT>
>    <COMPONENT NAME="FCPC rr i" TYPE="INTEGRATOR">
>        INPUT        fcs/fcpc-rr-error <!-- should be 0 if bank mode -->
>     C1   0.0005
>  </COMPONENT>
>    <COMPONENT NAME="FCPC rr total" TYPE="SUMMER">
>        INPUT        fcs/fcpc-rr-p
>        INPUT        fcs/fcpc-rr-d
>        INPUT        fcs/fcpc-rr-i
>  </COMPONENT>
>      <COMPONENT NAME="Roll Trim Sum" TYPE="SUMMER">
>        INPUT         fcs/fcpc-rr-total
>        INPUT         fcs/roll-trim-cmd-norm
>        CLIPTO        -1 1
>      </COMPONENT>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jon S Berndt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "FlightGear developers discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 10:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autocoordination : Derivatives in FCS
>
>
> > On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 20:41:00 +0100
> >   "Hof Markus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >Other topic: Are there any suggestions about how to build a d/d(t) of
> > >a property in fdm
> > >
> > >markus
> >
> > Markus:
> >
> > For JSBSim, you can use the flight control components.  This is a
> > quick reply, so maybe I have not thought this all the way out, yet.
> > But, I suspect you can get a derivative control like this:
> >
> > In LaPlace space, a derivative is simply "s", right (it's been a long
> > time since I've worked in LaPlace space - someone correct me if I am
> > wrong, please).  You can use the Tustin substitution to go from
> > LaPlace space to the time domain (z domain), as we do with all the
> > JSBSim flight control components (this is typical in industry, too).
> >  Have you seen the "Automatic Flight in JSBSim" document at the JSBSim
> > web site? Go to www.jsbsim.org, select Documentation, then select that
> > title.  You will see the Lead-Lag and Second order filters described.
> >  Select the coefficients for these two filters to give you only an "s"
> > in the numerator.  For the lead-lag filter you would selectC1 = 1, C4
> > = 1, and C2 and C3 would be 0.  For the second order filter, C2 and C6
> > would be 1 and C1, C3, C4, and C5 would be 0. Using these filters
> > should give you the derivative of the input.  Now, I have not used
> > these filters for that purpose, yet.  Initialization would be very
> > important for them to work correctly. I'd have to test them out to see
> > if that worked correctly.
> >
> > Jon
> >
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