On Tuesday 23 March 2004 02:40, Jim Wilson wrote:
> David Culp said:
> > > On the surface it sounds like Andy is right.  But maybe I don't
> > > understand the objective.
> > >
> > > Would this do things like implement auto land mode?  How would that
> > > work?
> >
> > Here's one example.  When you engage "level-change" the autothrottles go
> > into "n1-hold" mode to hold climb power or idle, depending on whether you
> > are climbing or descending.  The pitch mode is then set to
> > "speed-hold-with-pitch".  When you are within a certain distance from the
> > target altitude, the pitch mode changes to "capture-altitude-with-pitch",
> > and the autothrottle mode changes to "speed-hold" or "mach-hold"
> > (depending on altitude).
> >
> > So there are several things to be kept track of here.  The autoflight
> > system needs to know whether it's within capture distance of an altitude
> > so it can automatically switch the pitch and autothrottle modes.  It also
> > has to switch automatically between airspeed and mach at about FL260. 
> > Also, it needs to clamp the target pitch differently depending on whether
> > you are climbing or descending.  And it needs to handle the case where
> > the autothrottle is off, since the autopilot and autothrottle are
> > separate systems.
> >
> > Other things the autoflight system does is handle takeoff/go-around
> > modes, calculate climb N1 as a function of altitude, transition between
> > one roll mode, such as heading-select and another, like localizer mode. 
> > In this case the heading-select mode is engaged while the localizer mode
> > is armed; when the localizer is captured then the active roll mode
> > becomes localizer mode.
> >
> > And then there's autoland, which is an automatic switch from approach
> > mode (a combined roll/pitch mode) to a pitch mode of
> > radio-altitude-capture, and an autothrottle mode of n1-hold (target =
> > idle).
> >
> > If all this, and more, can be done with nasal then that's great.
>
> Ah ok,  this is what I was hoping you were talking about :-)  A lot of this
> sounds familiar from things I've read online, but it's very difficult for
> someone who's never been in a boeing cockpit to grasp the details.  Yeah
> I'd tend to say it would be a bad idea to do something this complex in
> nasal, even if it could be done.  It is a lot more than a few short scripts
> worth.
>
> Would it be possible to do a "semi-generic" Boeing autoflight system that
> could be configured for various models using xml?  I'm not sure what these
> parameters would be,  but it seems like there must be variation between
> models.
>
> Best,
>
> Jim

Oh yes - there's considerable variation, not just between different a/c but 
between different weights.  I've been spending quite a bit of time trying to 
auto-land the AN-225 but with landing weights between 1,200,000 and 
600,000lbs I'm not really anywhere near solving it yet.

LeeE

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