On Thursday 21 October 2004 11:31, Yu QingRou wrote:
> Thanks Arnt. Responses inline.
>
> Other gents, have time to look into my questions in my
> previous email and help me out?
>
> One question, if I have already know one point's (lat, lon,
> alt), how can I calculate a right position to draw it? I know
> it needs to be updated as the scenery center is being
> changed...I did some investigation but I have to say I messed
> up something. Can anyone give me a clarification on what
> procedures I should call...is the way I showed in my previous
> email correct?
>
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I am trying to show the trajectory the aircraft just flied
> > > when start replaying. Is there anybody who had ever done
> > > that?
> >
> >..like Klog?  ' apt-get install klog ', if you use debian
> > sid, otherwise see http://kflog.org .
> >
> > > Or could you give me some ideas about the solution?
> >
> >..preliminary idea: Ethy Brito asked for help investigating a
> > helicopter crash using FG, if you _are_ doing what I think
> > you are doing, chk out
> > http://baron.flightgear.org/pipermail/flightgear-users/2004-
> >October/009104.html
> >
> >and help us qualify FlightGear as an air crash investigation
> > tool, your trajectory code ideas are spot on what we need,
> > if they are anywhere near what I think they are.  :-)
> >
> >..updated protocol handler for FG:
> >http://www.a1.nl/~ehofman/fgfs/downloads/j3cub
>
> [QingRou] I saw Erik's email. Sounds like in the coming
> release we can have such functionality: save your flight to a
> file with the data need to be stored in FGReplayData
> (Sim_time, FDM and Ctrls). Then read this file back and replay
> the flight. This is useful especially for the instructors to
> show the students how a successful/bad flight is. Also it can
> be used to save students' flight and give scores.
>
> >..ca 2 hours Dolphin SA365 real life flight data for FG
> > calibration:
> > http://www.inexo.com.br/SA365/SA365-flight007-aero-data.tar.
> >gz
> > http://www.inexo.com.br/SA365/SA365-flight007-engine-data.ta
> >r.gz
> >
> >..bonus extensions could be placing choppers or airplanes
> > rather your lines or dots along the trajectory trail,
>
> [QingRou] Yes with my "point" (spot) solution, you can change
> the loading 3D model to anything you want and then you can see
> the model showed along the trajectory. I had ever done that to
> show a rocket along the flight path!
>
>  maybe showing red wireframe
>
> >orientations etc "according to the black box recordings", and
> > green, blue, yellow etc wireframe orientations "according to
> > the black box recordings filtered thru the yasim, JSBSim,
> > UIUC etc flight dynamics models" to help understand the
> > recordings and say, help identify instrument errors
> > disturbing the black box recordings.
>
> [QingRou] Yeah...actually what I am doing is, read the record
> data from Flight Data Recorder (black box), and refine the
> data to some format, then input into the replay system of
> FlightGear. All the flight recorded by the FDR can be
> replayed. In a flight school, this can be used for the
> instructors to review the flight with the student and give
> some comments to his operation.
>
> >..Ethy?  You're still around?
> >
> >--
> >..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-)
> >...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
> >   Scenarios always come in sets of three:
> >   best case, worst case, and just in case.

Sorry - a bit late on this one - but if AIballistic submodels are 
used without the  --enable-ai-models parameter the submodels 
stay at their release point, giving a very good trajectory 
indicator:)

Vivian - would it be tricky to implement this?  While we were 
trying to figure out what I was doing wrong on the Canberra I 
actually did use this 'feature' to look at trajectories - I 
especially found it interesting to be able to study the course 
of the a/c on the glideslope and touch-down.

If people thought such a feature might have wider uses it would 
be easy to make a simple generic marker object that could be 
used by all a/c.

LeeE

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