On Monday 17 Jan 2005 17:06, Vivian Meazza wrote:
> Dave Martin wrote
>
> > On Monday 17 Jan 2005 15:31, Martin Spott wrote:
> > > Dave Martin wrote:
> > > > http://www.airshowphotography.com/videos/videos2.html
> > >
> > > Nice, a 45 degree turn just one wing-span AGL  :-)
> > >
> > > Martin.
> >
> > I've been playing with the FDM and changing the line in the yasim file:
> >
> >  <flap1 start="0.75" end="0.95" lift="1.15" drag="1.3"/>
> >
> > to
> >
> >  <flap1 start="0.75" end="0.95" lift="2.0" drag="1.3"/>
> >
> > seems to give a realistic response at low speed.
> >
> > Just changing the lift factor of the aileron makes the detail in the
> > videos
> > flyable and doesn't seem to give any unrealistic behavior at full
> > deflection
> > etc (50% deflection seems about the same as 100% at low speeds).
> >
> > If anyone else would like to try her out with that lift factor change we
> > can
> > compare notes :-)
>
> The AN-225 is Lee Elliot's pet, but remember that air-shows are very often
> done with minimum fuel and no load. Heuristically, a lift factor of 2.0 is
> perhaps too high for a plain aileron. 1.2 - 1.5 would be normal, and with
> drag to match. But I agree that as it is the aircraft seems on the sluggish
> side.
>
> Regards,
>
> Vivian
>
I was originally testing with absolute minimum fuel and I could still get it 
into situations where it wouldn't lift the inner wing from 45' bank at 
170kts.

I'm going to have a go with a figure of 1.5 for lift.

One thing tho; the lift figure is the 'maximum' ie: at full deflection. Could 
we expect that the Aeileron might make that much at full deflection but such 
a deflection would also be structurally damaging to the aircraft at above 
takeoff / landing speeds.

In the videos, the aeileron deflection used to induce high rates of roll 
doesn't appear that much.

Dave Martin

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