On Friday 05 May 2006 21:43, Major A wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've just had an idea, maybe some of you find it interesting. I'm
> currently in a big dilemma -- I fly on VATSIM more or less regularly,
> and I'm fed up with clicking radios etc. on the screen, so I'm
> planning to build my own flight deck. Now FG is the best simulator as
> far as customization and hardware connection go, and I'd certainly
> like to run it once I have the flightdeck, but there is no VATSIM
> support in FG (and there won't be, apparently, from what I've read.)
>
> Now here's the idea -- use X-Plane or MSFS for VATSIM, but fly FG! It
> would need two computers, but I think it would work like this: in
> X-Plane/MSFS, use the plugin system or FSUIPC/WIDEFS, respectively, to
> IMPORT the current position and velocity data from the other machine
> (running FG) on a regular basis, along with the NAV frequencies,
> transponder settings, and the PTT state. That would give you a view of
> all other flyers on the X-Plane/MSFS computer, plus it would relay
> your position to them as well. Voice comms would of course be on the
> non-FG machine.

Sounds like it'll work just fine and it shouldn't be that hard to accomplish 
either. You'd need probably just one proxy app (MSFS module) that uses 
FSDConnect or FSUIPC to do the job.

> The only big question is whether the internal FDM of X-Plane or
> MSFS can be overridden with external data just like that.

Why would you need to override the FDM of X-Plane ot MSFS?
Last time I played with WideFS all it did was put the slave MSFS machines into 
slew mode and pump them with a stream of co-ordinates, pitch, roll and 
heading data. The VATSIM multiplayer code should smooth be able to smooth out 
the jumps.

Also you could see the other aircraft in FG if you did a little bit of coding 
and passed the multiplayer aircraft positions from MSFS or X-Plane into FG 
via the MP network protocol we use. That could be done in the same FSUIPC of 
FDSConnection module on the MSFS machine.

In fact if we had such a module running in MSFS we could pass that data to our 
own MP servers and see VATSIM aircraft flying around in FG. One could leave a 
FG MP aircraft at the major airports and see VATSIM guys arriving and 
departing.

Very interesting idea - I just wish we could have a native implimentation 
running on Linux since not everyone owns MSFS or Windows or a spare PC with 
the horsepower to run MSFS.

Paul


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