On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 08:02:10 +0100
Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> 
> ..in courts, this is known as fraud, and copyright infringement:

You do harm to the cause of free software by throwing accusations like
this around without backing them up.  Again, please be specific:  what
specific subsections of the GPL do you claim are be violated here, and
how?


> ..I recommend we get advice from Harald, he has practical experience
> that I have only read about on Groklaw, and I'm too damned tired now,
> but I would litigate in Utah or some other copyright loving US state if
> this perp is or get's near the US.  

"This perp."  You are now referring to this person as having violated
the law.  Please substantiate this claim -- otherwise you, too, are a
"perp".

Again, if you can substantiate your accusations of copyright infringement
here, please do.  Otherwise, you do harm to the very cause you keep
claiming you support.  I can introduce you to numerous potential (but not
actual) users and developers of free software who do not take free software
seriously, and thus choose to not use it or to not develop it, because of
uncertainty about copyright.  For this reason, it is *crucial* that
accusations of GPL violations not be tossed around carelessly -- doing
so supports an atmosphere of uncertainty that makes it even less likely
that folks will want anything to do with free software.

If you want to help free software, go after someone 100% full-bore if they
have indeed violated the GPL -- but only if you're sure that they've done
so.  By your attitude and words here, you're apparently sure they've done
so.  So what's your evidence, and to what subsections of the GPL does it
apply?


> ..this case is well past "GPL Violation", and fraud.
> http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Realistic-Professional-Aviation-Flight-Simulator_W0QQitemZ260053619883QQihZ016QQcategoryZ80336QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> states "New & Unregistered 100% Legal, Not OEM, Not Trial" instead of
> "GPL".

What subsection of the GPL requires that advertisements for
re-distributions of the product include the fact that the software is
covered by the GPL in the advertising itself?

Thanks in advance.

-c


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