> Agreed, that's the right question.
> 
> The answer is that the flight dynamics is unrealistic, and has
> been for years.  Redrawing the aircraft won't help much (if any).
>  -- The lift curve is unrealistic, which explains the observations
>   that started this thread.
>  -- The drag curve is unrealistic, which explains the unrealistic
>   climb performance and unrealistic short-field landing
>   performance.
>  -- The effect of flaps on incidence is unrealistic.
>  -- The effect of flaps on drag is unrealistic.
>  -- The effect of flaps on trim is unrealistic.
>  -- The effect of engine power is unrealistic, especially the
>   interaction between flaps and power.
>  -- Et cetera.  You get the idea.

I thought that one of the C172s had been extensively overhauled and improved
in the past ... ?

I've got a flight manual here. Maybe I can find time to take another look.
We did have a C172 pilot a few years ago try it out and he thought it seemed
pretty good.

It can be tricky to make a comparison on "feel", but there are some
performance numbers that can be looked at.

JB



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