This is much more helpful than just a 'its unrealistic' and leave it
at that. I,ve been testing some changes , it
does tend to lift fairly early , but I think Ive got it a little
closer now.I,ve so noticed a fuel.nas error at startup ,
so I'll tackle that one too. Thanks for the feedback guys.I'm
currently on night shift which mean work,eat,sleep without much time
in between for anything else , but should be able to fix this by the
weekend.
Cheers


On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 5:30 PM, Andy Ross <a...@plausible.org> wrote:
> On 02/22/2011 04:09 PM, Ryan M wrote:
>> I am not a 777 pilot in real life, but I certainly agree with Jack that
>> the FDM seems unrealistic to the casual pilot.
>
> For those interested (Curt made me look at a YASim file last week for
> the first time in over a year, so my head happened to be in the right
> place), I took a peek at why this would be:
>
> The 777-200 configuration I see in HEAD on gitorious has an approach
> setting that says it can stay in the air with 7 degrees of AoA (about
> half of the available lift) at 120 kts with 80% of its fuel and a full
> load.  That strikes me as more than a little optimistic.  This is a long haul
> jet, its fuel is a big fraction of its maximum weight, and typical
> landings for jet like this are made at what, 15% fuel or less?  (It
> can stay in the air for 11 hours, and you only need 45 minutes of
> reserve fuel, right?)
>
> So some quick math says that if you take this aircraft which can
> produce 1G at 120kias and reduce its mass by a factor of 1.74x by
> dropping the passengers and using 10% fuel, and pull it up to a stall
> AoA, you'll get 3G of acceleration.  Speed up to just 207 kias, and
> you can pull 9G in this plane.  Yeah, that's a fighter jet.
>
> I'd suggest 131 kts (which matches the landing speed in the coments)
> and 10% fuel and see how that works.
>
> Andy
>
>
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