On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 14:09:27 +0200, James wrote in message 
<068d459e-8a17-4403-89b1-92606456d...@mac.com>:

> Hi all,
> 
> Hyde has submitted a work-around for issue 772, which you can see
> here:
> 
>       https://gitorious.org/fg/flightgear/merge_requests/1572

..does this test for _both_ speed and altitude?

..I see no test for friction (maybe elsewhere in the code?), 
on e.g. wet ice, wind _should_ push you around, but a wee 
3kts breeze shouldn't move an airliner, a say 30kts gust 
probably should rock it a wee bit, and say a 60kts gale 
should have it skating away.  
Maybe test friction forces against (cross)wind forces?

> He'd like this merged before the freeze (actually it's a fix so it
> can be merged afterwards, but still), I'd like to hear any opinions
> on if this is a bad idea or good idea. Personally I'm not so affected
> by issue 772, but if many people are, the work-around seems
> just-about-acceptable to me.
> 
> (Obviously it would be nicer to fix Yasim for real, but let's skip
> that just for a moment)
> 
> Does anybody feel strongly that either:
> 
>  - the bug is very bad, so that the workaround is definitely needed
> (keeping in mind it's a long-standing bug)
>  - the work-around is very bad, for some scenario I didn't imagine
> myself? (Helicopters on the ground? But they likely benefit more from
> the fix?)

..one problem with good work-arounnds, is they have a way of becoming
permanent fixes despite their often fundamentally flawed assumptions,
because they work "well enough."

> I'm happy to merge the change above to get some feedback, with the
> understanding that if people raise 'problems which are worse than the
> original issue' before 2.12 is final, we could revert it.
> 
> James


-- 
..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen
...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
  Scenarios always come in sets of three: 
  best case, worst case, and just in case.

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