On Wednesday 05 February 2003 10:26 am, brett holcomb wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 08:48:53 -0600
>
>   "Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Richard Keech writes:
> >> support for 3D capabilities of NVIDIA cards is not open
> >>source.  you
> >> will need binary-only kernel modules (from nvidia) to
> >>make this
> >> work.  many report good success with these drivers,
> >>however
> >> binary-only drivers should be strenuously avoided.  The
> >>use of these
> >> drivers has been implicated in many stabiity problems
> >>with Linux.
> >
> >I would view the above quoted words as a political
> >statement. :-)
>
> First, who cares if it's binary.  Yes, RS and his group
> will squawk and yes, I like and use Opensource wherever I
> can but in some cases such as this it really doesn't
> matter - the vendor does supply drivers that work and if
> he wants to protect the portion that is proprietary that's
> fine with me as it's his.
>

That's a point that bears looking at again. The Nvidia drivers
work. If we look at RMS history, it was a driver that -sucked-
that got him started. HP wouldn't accept a patch for a printer
driver IIRMFC. 
Nvidia' unified driver means as long as they're making chips 
your Nvidia card is maintained. I'll take bets that Nvidia will
release the code base when they do obsolete the architecture.



> Second, I find that many people do not read the README
> that Nvidia supplies and hence have problems that can be
> fixed.  The Nvidia readme is a comprehensive, very well
> done document that lists many of the problems (including
> the AMD one), what the fixes or workarounds are and
> contains a lot of detail on how things work.  Nvidia is
> obviously supporting Linux seriously as this document is
> more than superficial.  I have a GF3 TI500 on my Linux
> system and I read the entire document before I installed.
>  I was prepared to setup my XF86Config, I knew what I did
> or did not have to have in the kernel and it worked well.
>
> >I would never discourage an open exchange of ideas here,
> >but I
> >disagree with much of the above.  It is true that
> >nvidia's linux
> >driver support is not open source.  But ATI's has also
> >done their most
> >recent driver release as binary only.  This means if you
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