On Monday 08 October 2007 15:44:02 Larry Wyble wrote: > On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 11:36:48 -0700 > > "Hal V. Engel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Monday 08 October 2007 07:22:39 David Baron wrote: > > > Yes, the Cessna Citation (jet) also does this. > > > Also, how strong an effect is this suppose to be in a small > > > cessna and how accurately is such being modeled, if at all, in > > > flightgear? > > > > If a jet is also doing this then it is not a problem with the FDM > > since this does not happen for me and I suspect for 99.9% of us > > since jets have very low levels or toque and p-factor. This > > appaears to be an issue that is specific to your machine or your > > installation of FlightGear. Other than that I can't give you much > > help since so far there is not much information to go on as to why > > this is so badly behaved on your machine. > > I have had this on 3 different computers now. I have just upgraded to > a new dual core with 2 gigs, blah,blah and upgraded to the newest > version of Slackware. Every thing has been upgraded on my machine > including the newest FlightGear. I have been using flightgear for a > couple of years now and it has been doing this since day one.
Like you I have also been using FlightGear for several years. I have never seen this issue and it appears that almost no one else has either. In fact, I go "flying" on an almost daily basis and I usually do low level aerobatics when I go flying. So even small gliches in how the controls work would be a significant issue for me since I would likely auger in if this type of thing was happening. I do auger in every now and then but it is because I did something dumb not because of the controls messing up. One clue is that farther back in this thread you wrote "Guess what--google does the same thing!" I assume by this you mean the flight sim that is part of google earth. But maybe not? Could you provide more info about the google connection? This might give people more to work with to try to help you out. This again points to something other than FlightGear being the root cause of the problem (after all how could FlightGear cause google to have a problem?). One other difference is that I suspect that the vast majority of flightgear users have and use a joystick. I am thinking on the order of 99% of them have a joystick. For example, I have the full nine yards with a joystick, pedals and a throttle quadrant. So I never even have to touch the keyboard or mouse well I am flying. Your problem could very well be an issue with: 1. The mouse code in FlightGear - but the fact that this also affects google makes this less likely. 2. Your mouse at the hardware level. Have you been using the same mouse or type of mouse for all three machines and since you started using FlightGear? 3. The X11 mouse drivers. 4. USB mouse support in the kernel. 5. Who knows what that affects a mouse?? In any case so far what we have to go on is: 1. You use a mouse for your controller. 2. The same thing happens in --google. 3. It happens with the latest version of FlightGear. 4. You are running Slackware Linux. 5. You have tried it on several similarly configured machines. This is not much info to provide you with help but the main clue is that most users are not seeing this and most users use a joystick. In fact my experience with FlightGear using a qaulity joystick has been very good. Perhaps a good test would be to find a friend who has a good qaulity joystick you can borrow and give it a try with FlightGear. I will give you 10 to 1 odds that you will not see this problem when using a joystick. Besides the FDM in FlightGear is so good that you really need a joystick to do it justice. Hal > > I asked about it a couple times over the past couple of years but > there has never been a conclusion to the problem. > > I take off and immediately the plane veers to the right no matter how > much left rudder you give it. The only one that doesn't do this is > the beech99-uiuc, so I fly it a lot! :) > > later > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Flightgear-users mailing list > Flightgear-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-users ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ _______________________________________________ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-users
