"The best way to *predict the future* is to *invent it"* On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 3:50 AM, Jarek Rzeszótko <[email protected]>wrote:
> You make it sound a bit like this was a working solution already, while it > seems to be a prototype at best, they are collecting funding right now: > http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/306316578/light-table. > > I would love to be proven wrong, but I think given the state of the > project, many people overexcite over it: some of the things proposed aren't > new, just wrapped into a nice modern design (you could try to create a new > "skin" or UI toolkit for some Smalltalk IDE for a similiar effect), while > for the ones that would be new like the real-time evaluation or > visualisation there is too little detail to say whether they are onto > something or not - I am sure many people thought of such things in the > past, but it is highly questionable to what extent those are actually > doable, especially in an existing language like Clojure or JavaScript. I am > not convinced if dropping 200,000$ at the thing will help with coming up > with a solution if there is no decent set of ideas to begin with. I would > personally be much more enthusiastic if the people behind the project at > least outlined possible approaches they might take, before trying to > collect money. Currently it sounds like they just plan to "hack" it until > it handles a reasonable number of special cases, but tools that work only > some of the time are favoured by few. I think we need good theoretical > approaches to problems like this before we can make any progress in how the > actual real tools work like. > > Cheers, > Jarosław Rzeszótko > > > 2012/4/24 Julian Leviston <[email protected]> > >> Thought this is worth a look as a next step after Brett Victor's work ( >> http://vimeo.com/36579366) on UI for programmers... >> >> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ibdknox/light-table >> >> We're still not quite "there" yet IMHO, but that's getting towards the >> general direction... tie that in with a tile-script like language, and I >> think we might have something really useful. >> >> Julian >> _______________________________________________ >> fonc mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc >> > > > _______________________________________________ > fonc mailing list > [email protected] > http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc > >
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