Seconded. For instance, I want to re-implement OMeta on top of Lua. The papers are good, but I had to look at the code to feel able to do my implementation myself.
I believe it applies to the other pieces of Frank. You compressed much work in little code, so even if it's just an undocumented snapshot that only works on a single platform, that would be useful. Loup. On Thu, Nov 08, 2012 at 03:17:39PM -0700, David Girle wrote: > If analogies from other industries work, it is not the role of scientists > to deliver production ready systems, that has been the role of engineers. > Maybe a snapshot before you push on, would allow others on this list to > learn more from your science projects so far. > It may help the engineers more fully understand the technologies, as some > of us work better with papers + artifacts, rather than just papers. > > With respect, > > David > > > On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Alan Kay <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi Carl > > > > Just to keep on saying it ... the STEPS project had/has completely > > different goals than the Smalltalk project -- STEPS really is a "science > > project" -- or a collection of science projects -- that has never been > > aimed at a deployable artifact, but instead is aimed at finding better and > > more compact ways to express meanings. > > > > We did make it possible to exhibit and permute a wide range of media in > > real-time -- it makes it much easier to show people the results of > > important pieces of code this way -- but this is quite a ways from the > > packaging and finishing that was done for the Smalltalks. > > > > However, it would be possible to do something analogous to a Smalltalk > > from the current state of things, but we are instead pushing even more > > deeply into "Whats" rather than "Hows". > > > > Cheers, > > > > Alan > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Carl Gundel <[email protected]> > > *To:* 'Fundamentals of New Computing' <[email protected]> > > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 7, 2012 2:45 PM > > > > *Subject:* Re: [fonc] Final STEP progress report? > > > > Thanks Kim. Will there be enough documentation for interested people to be > > able to build on top of VPRI's STEPS project? I'm thinking something like > > the blue book with a CDROM. :-) > > > > -Carl > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > > Kim > > Rose > > Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 5:37 PM > > To: Fundamentals of New Computing > > Subject: Re: [fonc] Final STEP progress report? > > > > Hello, > > > > For those of you interested and waiting -- the NSF (National Science > > Foundation) funding for the 5-year "STEPS" project has now finished (we > > stretched that funding to last for 6 years). The final report on this work > > will be published and available on our website by the end of this calendar > > year. > > > > We have received some more funding (although not to the extent of this > > original 5-year grant) and our work will carry on. That said, we're always > > looking for more funding to maintain day to day operations so we welcome > > any > > support and donations at any time. :-) > > > > Regards, > > Kim Rose > > Viewpoints Research Institute > > > > Viewpoints Research is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization dedicated to > > improving "powerful ideas education" for the world's children and advancing > > the state of systems research and personal computing. Please visit us > > online > > at www.vpri.org > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 8, 2012, at 5:23 AM, Carl Gundel wrote: > > > > > Well, I do hope that VPRI has managed to find more funding money so that > > this doesn't have to be a final STEP report. ;-) > > > > > > -Carl > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > > Loup Vaillant > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 1:45 PM > > > To: Fundamentals of New Computing > > > Subject: [fonc] Final STEP progress report? > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > The two last progress reports having being published in October, I was > > wondering if we will have the final one soon. Have we an estimation of > > when > > this might be completed? As a special request, I'd like to know a bit about > > what to expect. > > > > > > Unless of course it's all meant to be a surprise. But please at least > > tell me you have decided not to disclose anything right now. In any case, I > > promise I'll be patient. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Loup. > > > > > > PS: If I sound like a jumping impatient child, that's because right > > > now, I feel like one. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > fonc mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > fonc mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc > > > > _______________________________________________ > > fonc mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc > > > > _______________________________________________ > > fonc mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > fonc mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fonc mailing list > [email protected] > http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc _______________________________________________ fonc mailing list [email protected] http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc
