> If analogies from other industries work, it is not the role of scientists to > deliver production ready systems, that has been the role of engineers. > Maybe a snapshot before you push on, would allow others on this list to learn > more from your science projects so far. > It may help the engineers more fully understand the technologies, as some of > us work better with papers + artifacts, rather than just papers.
I'd actually be satisfied with a lot less. A few months ago, I reread through all the NSF report + the original grant proposal and then a handful of the core papers and Alan's earlier "thought papers" in a weekend. It was a great experience to see the whole thing in fast forward. What I would love is a summary / digest of sorts. E.g. what are the dozen or so models that make up model T-shirt programing. one concise, digestible starting place that references past works in the project. shawn > With respect, > > David > > > On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Alan Kay <alan.n...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Hi Carl > > Just to keep on saying it ... the STEPS project had/has completely different > goals than the Smalltalk project -- STEPS really is a "science project" -- or > a collection of science projects -- that has never been aimed at a deployable > artifact, but instead is aimed at finding better and more compact ways to > express meanings. > > We did make it possible to exhibit and permute a wide range of media in > real-time -- it makes it much easier to show people the results of important > pieces of code this way -- but this is quite a ways from the packaging and > finishing that was done for the Smalltalks. > > However, it would be possible to do something analogous to a Smalltalk from > the current state of things, but we are instead pushing even more deeply into > "Whats" rather than "Hows". > > Cheers, > > Alan > > > From: Carl Gundel <ca...@psychesystems.com> > To: 'Fundamentals of New Computing' <fonc@vpri.org> > Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2012 2:45 PM > > Subject: Re: [fonc] Final STEP progress report? > > Thanks Kim. Will there be enough documentation for interested people to be > able to build on top of VPRI's STEPS project? I'm thinking something like > the blue book with a CDROM. :-) > > -Carl > > -----Original Message----- > From: fonc-boun...@vpri.org [mailto:fonc-boun...@vpri.org] On Behalf Of Kim > Rose > Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 5:37 PM > To: Fundamentals of New Computing > Subject: Re: [fonc] Final STEP progress report? > > Hello, > > For those of you interested and waiting -- the NSF (National Science > Foundation) funding for the 5-year "STEPS" project has now finished (we > stretched that funding to last for 6 years). The final report on this work > will be published and available on our website by the end of this calendar > year. > > We have received some more funding (although not to the extent of this > original 5-year grant) and our work will carry on. That said, we're always > looking for more funding to maintain day to day operations so we welcome any > support and donations at any time. :-) > > Regards, > Kim Rose > Viewpoints Research Institute > > Viewpoints Research is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization dedicated to > improving "powerful ideas education" for the world's children and advancing > the state of systems research and personal computing. Please visit us online > at www.vpri.org > > > > > > On Nov 8, 2012, at 5:23 AM, Carl Gundel wrote: > > > Well, I do hope that VPRI has managed to find more funding money so that > this doesn't have to be a final STEP report. ;-) > > > > -Carl > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: fonc-boun...@vpri.org [mailto:fonc-boun...@vpri.org] On Behalf Of > Loup Vaillant > > Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 1:45 PM > > To: Fundamentals of New Computing > > Subject: [fonc] Final STEP progress report? > > > > Hi, > > > > The two last progress reports having being published in October, I was > wondering if we will have the final one soon. Have we an estimation of when > this might be completed? As a special request, I'd like to know a bit about > what to expect. > > > > Unless of course it's all meant to be a surprise. But please at least > tell me you have decided not to disclose anything right now. In any case, I > promise I'll be patient. > > > > Cheers, > > Loup. > > > > PS: If I sound like a jumping impatient child, that's because right > > now, I feel like one. > > _______________________________________________ > > fonc mailing list > > fonc@vpri.org > > http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc > > > > _______________________________________________ > > fonc mailing list > > fonc@vpri.org > > http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc > > _______________________________________________ > fonc mailing list > fonc@vpri.org > http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc > > _______________________________________________ > fonc mailing list > fonc@vpri.org > http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc > > > > _______________________________________________ > fonc mailing list > fonc@vpri.org > http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc > > > _______________________________________________ > fonc mailing list > fonc@vpri.org > http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc
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