Another program which has worked well in dual text/graphic mode has been
dreamweaver.  Yes I understand it may not do all the behavior you want.
However it doesn't stop you from adding that behavior.
On Jul 20, 2013 4:13 PM, "John Carlson" <[email protected]> wrote:

> One such test automation system is Sikuli, which uses images and image
> recognition as key components.  To implement the image as 1D text seems
> rather foolhardy.
> On Jul 20, 2013 4:09 PM, "John Carlson" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I think one thing that has succeeded is macro editors.  You can make
>> macro languages which work on selectors or add conditionals/recursion to
>> such a macro editor to achieve a fairly complete programming language.  You
>> could also treat exceptions similar to conditionals.  I believe the area
>> this works best for is test automation.
>> On Jul 20, 2013 11:22 AM, "frank" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 07/20/2013 04:21 PM, Pascal J. Bourguignon wrote:
>>> >> 3) Get rid of established but unnatural ways of manipulating data.
>>> >> Most importantly, get rid of flat text and find neat graphical
>>> >> representations for the most common structures.
>>> >
>>> > Bouhahaha!
>>>
>>> This!
>>>
>>> There have been so many attempts - by people who were by no means
>>> stupid - to replace text as the primary representation of code!
>>> And ALL of them have failed, miserably!
>>> The best anyone has ever achieved was to enthuse a few managers,
>>> much to the detriment of the engineers who eventually had to use
>>> the shit on a daily basis!
>>>
>>> Also:
>>> 1D representations are established exactly BECAUSE they are NATURAL!
>>>
>>> The logical part of your mind (the neocortex, some people used to call
>>> it the "left half" of the brain, but this has firmly been established
>>> to be a somewhat shitty simplification) works serially in time:
>>>
>>>   state(t+1) = f( state(t) , input(t) )
>>>
>>> It works.... in 1D! An it likes representations in... 1D!
>>>
>>> Cheers, Frank
>>>
>>>
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