Sorry if I mixed 2D and 3D ideas here. On Jul 20, 2013 5:12 PM, "John Carlson" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Now that I think of it, this is the old argument of immediate mode versus > retained mode graphics. A hybrid system I believe is best. Postscript/pdf > has 3 types of graphics. Images, text, and curves. Many systems these > days only deal with images and text. I'd like to remind people that > curves are important too. I realize that curves are decomposed into > triangles and later textures, but if we manage them as curves, there's a > chance for a better user experience. However some like bumpy user > experiences and some like smooth user experiences. That's why we provide > dual/hybrid modes. > On Jul 20, 2013 4:20 PM, "John Carlson" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Another program which has worked well in dual text/graphic mode has been >> dreamweaver. Yes I understand it may not do all the behavior you want. >> However it doesn't stop you from adding that behavior. >> On Jul 20, 2013 4:13 PM, "John Carlson" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> One such test automation system is Sikuli, which uses images and image >>> recognition as key components. To implement the image as 1D text seems >>> rather foolhardy. >>> On Jul 20, 2013 4:09 PM, "John Carlson" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I think one thing that has succeeded is macro editors. You can make >>>> macro languages which work on selectors or add conditionals/recursion to >>>> such a macro editor to achieve a fairly complete programming language. You >>>> could also treat exceptions similar to conditionals. I believe the area >>>> this works best for is test automation. >>>> On Jul 20, 2013 11:22 AM, "frank" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 07/20/2013 04:21 PM, Pascal J. Bourguignon wrote: >>>>> >> 3) Get rid of established but unnatural ways of manipulating data. >>>>> >> Most importantly, get rid of flat text and find neat graphical >>>>> >> representations for the most common structures. >>>>> > >>>>> > Bouhahaha! >>>>> >>>>> This! >>>>> >>>>> There have been so many attempts - by people who were by no means >>>>> stupid - to replace text as the primary representation of code! >>>>> And ALL of them have failed, miserably! >>>>> The best anyone has ever achieved was to enthuse a few managers, >>>>> much to the detriment of the engineers who eventually had to use >>>>> the shit on a daily basis! >>>>> >>>>> Also: >>>>> 1D representations are established exactly BECAUSE they are NATURAL! >>>>> >>>>> The logical part of your mind (the neocortex, some people used to call >>>>> it the "left half" of the brain, but this has firmly been established >>>>> to be a somewhat shitty simplification) works serially in time: >>>>> >>>>> state(t+1) = f( state(t) , input(t) ) >>>>> >>>>> It works.... in 1D! An it likes representations in... 1D! >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, Frank >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> fonc mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc >>>>> >>>>
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