From: "Joerg Pietschmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> "Nicola Ken Barozzi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > There is a new project in Apache called Forrest, that is redesigning the
> > whole xml.apache.org site to become useful as a Sourceforge on steroids.
> > We are at the beginning, and it would be cool if you join us there!
>
> Well, there are already GNUforge and PostNuke....
> I hope you havn't fall prey to the NIH syndrome.

I hope too.
But *GNU stuff is off limits for Apache, as you know.
We have reviewed other projects, but they don't even come close to what we
envision.
If you have APL compatible projects that can help us, please let us know
([EMAIL PROTECTED]).

> > Currently, there is a mailing list, forrest-dev and a CVS module
xml.forrest
>
> Would it still be possible to use established mechanisms
> as long as forrest is not put into production?

Of course.
Forrest will be an *option*, not an obligation.
It is *our* goal to do the work for you, not viceversa.

BTW, if you want, in the meantime I can make a patch to your build to use
Cocoon and the new slim xml.apache.org style that is in current Cocoon cvs.
It has the same L&F of the current one but doesn't make use of batik, and
site is much slimmer.
The libs would be an additional 1.4 Mb, comprising the Avalon framework and
Excalibur jars that you will need anyways. The Cocoon jar itself is less
than 1Mb.

> It would be nice if you could give a short note about the
> current state and how the forrest project will influence
> the publication of FOP docs in the future (to keep it on
> topic for this list :-).

:-)

Forrest will make the FOP site pubblication a _piece of cake_, and we are
working with GUMP to integrate the two processes.
Basically, all you will need is to register up for forrest docs generation,
and that's it.

Forrest will trigger regularly on GUMP and:
 -get the xdocs from your CVS
 -get the results from the gump build
 -generate xml javadocs
 -massage everything with new slim&fast stylesheets
 -deploy the site
 -mail nags to the mailing lists like:
   - pending patches
   - pending bugs
   - please suggest ;-)


This is the first phase.
Subsequent releases will grow based on demand and the Forrest project scope
in the README.

--
Nicola Ken Barozzi                   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
            - verba volant, scripta manent -
   (discussions get forgotten, just code remains)
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