At 09:22 AM 5/16/01 -0700, Brad Velander wrote:
>Hi guys,
>         I have a problem which is driving me nuts. I have a PCB which I just
>finished placing, there is something outside of the visible area of the
>components and PCB outline. Using Zoom All I get a window approx. twice the
>size expected. I cannot find anything outside of the expected area of the
>PCB. Trying to determine what is out there, I used the select outside area
>and selected my PCB outline. The selection selects approx. 12 varied
>components within my PCB outline. Now I know that there is something with
>regards to these components which is outside the PCB area. What is it? What
>can it possibly be? How do I find it?

There are a number of situations which can cause unexpected Zoom All 
behavior. It's probably a good idea to correct them. The one which most 
closely matches Mr. Velander's question, as many have noted -- never saw so 
much response to one question before -- is a hidden comments. Using select 
outside will not delete these comments without deleting the components they 
belong to.

However, once those components are selected, conditional edits (using the 
fact that they are selected) can be done to (1) unhide the comments, then 
(2) center them or otherwise establish autopositioning, then (3) hide them 
again.

Other possible causes would be, as mentioned, an invisible room. This may 
have been the problem that Ms. Scott reported.

Primitives outside the workspace may also cause this, I think, which can 
only be fixed, usually, by moving them back into the workspace (if 
selected, they will move with other selections) and then deleting them. But 
that was not the problem here.

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Abdulrahman Lomax
P.O. Box 690
El Verano, CA 95433

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