WOW, that sounds like a pretty profound conclusion
Dennis Saputelli

Mike Reagan wrote:
> 
> I would be glad to challenge anyone who makes the statement that "Protel is
> good for small boards"   and provide designs to prove it.  Claims like this
> come from (in my very strong opinion) ignorance of never using the program.
> I have used recent versions of PCAD, PADS and Protel and was afforded the
> opportunity to evaluate Cadence.   All have the capability, but I doubt if
> you can design faster in PCAD, PADS or Cadence than you could with Protel.
> Library management alone will slow your design down in any of these
> programs.     I will add that to compliment Protel correctly you should buy
> the Spectra router, which you would need to purchase for any of the other
> programs for larger designs.  I have PADS and the new Blaze router but have
> never figured how to configure it properly so I gave up on it for now. I
> should not formulate an opinion that the router is not up to task,  just
> because I cant get the darn thing working.    If any of the programs are
> suited for small board it would have to be the "scalable" design suites like
> PCAD, PADS, and Cadence.  In order to design large designs with any of these
> programs you may be looking at 30k in upgrades to make them a suitable
> design package.
> 
> Personally I think your boss like most managers has never tried Protel and
> has formed his opinion based on sales information that he receives from
> vendors he is familiar with or he is simply outdated.    If you want to see
> a large design, one of  the many I am proud to show off from this "low end"
> design tool email me and  I will be glad to forward you as many designs as
> you want.   We had one design that we had considered sending to PCD magazine
> for board of the month.
> 
> I ran my own independent design bureau for the past six years and recently
> found out that only one of the three design bureaus in the DC area were
> profitable without government subsidies for design tools, mine.   Protel's
> cost was certainly a factor in helping me make a decision but ultimately my
> decision to use Protel was made on capability.    Compare....Cadence cant
> even import any drawing package, compare  PADS is still DOS code,  compare
> PCAD is somewhat better but cumbersome.  The last version of PCAD I used was
> 14, a simple feature like "loop removal" , standard features found in PADS
> and Protel was a  $4.5K option,  get real!  Compare...import a netlist on
> the fly on PCAD, or have a nightmare importing a netlist in PADS.   I have
> seen more designs hosed up with PADS netlist import/ export / compare/ eco,
> its a joke.  Seriously compare, but don't make a statement "Protel is good
> for small boards"  I take it seriously them are fightin words
> 
> Please feel free to call me or email me if you want my real opinion
> 
> Mike Reagan
> EDSI
> Frederick MD
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 301 620 0080 ph

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