I think nepalbabu , it is not appropriate to use such slang words such as 
"kukur netas for all" .we should think  the peaceful competioion between other 
vendor such microsoft.Our main goal should have to aware the Politicians and 
bureaucrats so that they can think about the FOSS .In my experiences they are 
not aware much about FOSS. we should explain them the role of FOSS in the 
context of Nepal.

I equally agree with sagun 's word "We need to work for that and FOSS Nepal 
community has a huge responsibilities in building  support centres, generating 
man power, teaching businessmen (about business model of FOSS) , politicians, 
bureaucrats and consultants about good things (cost, support, success stories, 
warranty ), promoting entrepreneurship in FOSS etc.  in Nepal"

I think our aim should not focus how to kill the microsoft products  but we can 
speed -up  awareness  campagions to widen the scope and importance of FOSS so 
that we can have win win  model over the  propritary solution. 

So as a fossians, we should create the healthy competetions not killing other 
's business . we can create the great revolution on  FOSS in Nepal as New 
Nepal..E-nepal.


Thanks

Bhaskar





Sagun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think you have a point nepbabu. But, in my 
view its not just Mr. Allen Tuladhar who promotes microsoft or other 
proprietary software. There are also other stakeholders who do that. Remember, 
Allen is also a businessman who run business not charity so its obvious and its 
their right that they will look for ROI.  

Politicians and bureaucrats also support proprietary softwares for which I 
think there is two reasons. The first one is because they don't know the 
business model of open source, they haven't heard about the success stories of 
open source in Nepal yet, and besides there is lots of exercises in government 
sector for commissions.  Commissions should be stopped right away!!

There are also some people behind the scene who promote proprietary softwares, 
they are consultants and advisor's in different sectors of government, private, 
education, health and wherever  possible. Most of the consultants are  unaware 
of the success stories of FOSS, some even don't  know about alternative 
softwares in FOSS to the ones in proprietary. Some would rather recommend the 
proprietary ones even if they know because, they are also paid commissions from 
the proprietary software companies per installation.  Commissions should be 
stopped right away!!

One should not forget that most of the government sector professionals and 
consultants work for the production environment, they don't want RnD. They want 
the product and services straight. Proprietary softwares mostly claimed live 
tested or they give warranties and support. But the FOSS still lacks adequate 
support and testing in Nepal.  Why should they risk their investments?

We need to work for that and FOSS Nepal community has a huge responsibilities 
in building  support centres, generating man power, teaching businessmen (about 
business model of FOSS) , politicians, bureaucrats and consultants about good 
things (cost, support, success stories, warranty ), promoting entrepreneurship 
in FOSS etc.  in Nepal. There are lots to do. So I think nepbabu we have to be 
aggressive in  promotion for FOSS rather than being aggressive in words to 
respectful icons like Allen.

Lets work together to build the capacity. 

On 6/4/07, Unix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
it's been quite informal but best,
i have objection in kukur netas for all




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