Is the software for the mailing list open source? If so, can i get a
link to its location.
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Scott Doctor
[email protected]
On 06/23/2016 13:51, Fossil SCM user's discussion wrote:
Yes, very hard to follow anonymous discussion and returned copies.
Every other product I use has a forum and manages spam with moderation
and user reporting. Forum threads are way more efficient to follow.
Moot point if no bandwidth to administrate?
s k y 5 w a l k a t g m a i l d o t c o m <-- argg :)
On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 4:38 PM, Fossil SCM user's discussion
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The current shape is almost unusable. I say "almost", because we
haven't had a new thread on an actual on-topic subject since it
was started, so all we have seen is an increasingly bushy
discussion of the mailing list. But experience tell me that the
community will wither and die if we don't find some middle ground.
On-list spam is easy to deal with. Identify the spam, ban the
sender. You can get more complicated than that, but it is easy
precisely because everyone gets to see the bad behavior,
especially the list owner.
Off-list spam is much harder for the list management to control.
While it is rare, I have received personal replies to my messages
posted to the list. In most cases, that has been valuable. As luck
has it, I have not received any "bad" messages that I can blame on
this list. But I have pretty solid and stable spam filters between
my inbox and the world.
Thinking slightly outside the box, I wonder if some sort of
variant of a honey-pot could be made to work. Set up an "official"
bot that posts daily. Have it post a joke of the day, trivia, help
text for each fossil command in sequence, or anything as long as
it is different each post. Post it from a single-use address, and
use each address exactly once, and only for this post. A name like
Honey-[randomness] might work.
Then, use mail sent to that name to identify and block the
spammer, and raise hell with its ISP. In the obvious cases, that
could be done completely automatically. Of course, the spammer
might get smarter, requiring deeper investigation. But at least
you'd have a chance of discovering the incident in a timely fashion.
This list is a valuable resource for new users and boosting
fossil's brand and credibility. It must not be allowed to die.
Finally, if switching off of your current platform becomes an
option, take a look at the relatively young Groups.io platform. It
was formed to combat feature rot in Yahoo Groups, and is also
trying to play in that niche of providing a service that is not
quite a forum, but not just a mailing list.
--Ross Berteig
On 6/22/2016 10:50 PM, Fossil SCM user's discussion wrote:
Thus said Fossil SCM user's discussion on Wed, 22 Jun 2016
11:58:01 -0600:
....
This is how it happens:
1) spam bot subscribes to the mailing list
2) normal user subscribes to the mailing list and asks for help
3) spam bot receives a copy of the email delivered via the ML
4) spam bot sends an email directly to the sender (bypassing
the ML)
So, it is not possible for the ML to solve this problem via
filtering.
Some of the mechanisms it can use are:
1) make it harder to subscribe in hopes that the bot will be
unsuccessful
2) manipulate the From address in some fashion:
a) substitute the ML address but leave the comment in place
b) mangle the address so human can easily figure out the
*real* From
c) completely anonymize From (current configuration)
Yes to all of the above. But above all, kill the current blinding
anonymity!
--
Ross Berteig [email protected]
Cheshire Engineering Corp. http://www.CheshireEng.com/
+1 626 303 1602 <tel:%2B1%20626%20303%201602>
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