On Tuesday 03 February 2009 21:07:51 Sam Johnston wrote: > On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Nikola Smolenski <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Given that full attributions are both largely worthless and onerous to > >> the point of forbidding reuse in many circumstances (e.g. paragraph > > > > Please stop beating the dead horse. No one has ever suggested that full > > attributions are necessary. > > Yes they have.
Citation? > >> quotes, most physical mediums, compilations, etc.) and partial > >> attributions are in many ways worse than no attributions at all, > > > > Could you specify at least some of these many ways? > > Ok, so off the top of my head: > > - It is impossible to reliably determine the top contributors in a > mechanical fashion, because: > - There are no reliable metrics for identifying 'top contributors' > (e.g. edit count vs wikiblame vs creator vs something else?) but: > - Manual determination of top contributors creates opportunities for > internal conflict where there would otherwise be none yet: > - Partial attribution creates opportunities for external conflict > (think DMCA, lawsuits, etc.) where those excluded take exception, > which leads us to: Yes, but how is this worse than no attribution at all? Surely, anyone who will object to being out of a partial attribution will also object not being attributed at all. What you wrote after that is completely fictional. > Wikis, or 'Massive Multiauthor Collaboration Sites' (as the FSF calls > them) are a relatively new concept. Copyright, attribution, etc. works > well for individuals and extends to relatively small groups (e.g. > bands, tv/film crews, journals, etc.) but many of us believe that it > breaks badly at this scale. Many of us also do not. Film crews are still typically larger than the number of editors of a Wikipedia article. > In any case it is clear that Erik/WMF have a good handle on the issue > and Brian's nailed it: > > "With a system that can find the authors of any given piece of text no > matter when it existed in any language version:" > > "Wikipedia" OK. Could you please show me how to find the authors of the article "Gay Nigger Association of America" as of May 2006? _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
