Right, but this is Foundation-l, not MediaWiki-l. It's great that other people besides WMF use MediaWiki, but those aren't projects I particularly care about. I'm sure you won't appreciate that sentiment, but I know I'm not alone in that.
skype: node.ue 2009/2/12 Gerard Meijssen <[email protected]>: > Hoi, > Your answer is not helpful. FIrst of all, 100% of the core messages and 100% > of the messages of extensions used by the WMF are needed to give people who > do not speak English the service that they deserve. Spanish is doing better > at the moment then it has done before. Second of all it is rather parochial > to think that translatewiki,net (aka Betawiki) is only about the WMF > projects. It is great that MediaWiki is used elsewhere as well. Also many of > those "other" extensions are waiting to be assessed before they can be used > in WMF projects. > > If anything, it is great when active people support their language. When it > comes to providing service to our users 100% is good enough. > Thanks, > GerardM > > 2009/2/12 Mark Williamson <[email protected]> > >> Of course they will, but I feel that Gerard's message was a bit >> misleading. What percentage of the untranslated messages would >> actually help the usability of the Spanish Wikipedia, vs. non-WM >> projects? >> >> skype: node.ue >> >> >> >> 2009/2/11 Meno 25 <[email protected]>: >> > On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Pedro Sanchez <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> >> On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Gerard Meijssen >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Hoi, >> >> > I am afraid you do not appreciate the importance of localisation. Yes, >> >> there >> >> > are thousands of messages and it is possible to have them all >> translated. >> >> > Tagalog is proof that a full localisation is possible. It was done in >> a >> >> > relatively short period of time and I am convinced that the Tagalog >> >> > Wikipedia will benefit as a consequence. >> >> > >> >> > When "Crazy Lover" asks people to help with the localisation of >> Spanish, >> >> I >> >> > sympathise with his request. It is important that people help. I do >> not >> >> > understand the lack of awareness of why localisation is important. I >> >> truly >> >> > hope that many people will respond to CML's request because it will >> add >> >> an >> >> > important part to the Spanish language projects; the ability for >> people >> >> who >> >> > do not speak English to understand what is being asked of them in the >> >> User >> >> > Interface. The UI does not only consist of the core messages. >> >> > Thanks, >> >> > Gerard >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> The point is that many of the missing ones are not even used on >> >> wikimedia, so their priority sinks for the userbase. >> >> Urging a translation saying it will benefit wikipedia doesn't seem to >> >> follow logically (blahtex? are we replacing the latex engine? asksql? >> >> , etc.) >> >> >> > >> > Mediawiki extensions are not written for Wikimedia only. Non-Wikimedia >> wikis >> > will benefit greatly from the localistaion of these extensions. >> > >> > --User:Meno25 >> > >> > >> >> Currently >> >> 100% of core messages, 99.96 of mediawiki messages and 88.4% of >> >> anything wikimedia uses is already translated that's a fair share and >> >> a huge number of translations, and it's certainly much much more than >> >> 58%. The rest is extensions that will never be used on wikimedia or >> >> aren't yet available. >> >> >> >> So I understand importance of translation, but I don't see the how >> >> misrepresenting the numbers does any good. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> foundation-l mailing list >> >> [email protected] >> >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > foundation-l mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> foundation-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l >> > _______________________________________________ > foundation-l mailing list > [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
