> On May 9, 2021, at 3:40 AM, Sven Barth <pascaldra...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> 
> === code begin ===
> 
> {$mode objfpc}
> 
> type
>   TTest = class
>   protected
>     procedure DoSomething;
>   end;
> 
>   TTestSub = class refcounted(TTest)
>   public
>     procedure Test;
>   end;
> 
> procedure TTest.DoSomething;
> begin
>   // maybe this functions stores the reference
>   SomeFuncThatTakesAObject(Self);
> end;
> 
> procedure TTest.Test;
> begin
>   DoSomething;
> end;
> 
> === code end ===

I see, the reference counting is broken because you move up into a non-ref 
counted class. Yeah that's something programers simply should not do or be 
prevented from doing. I don't see this particular case being a problem however 
because your ref counted object is going to be in the base of a hierarchy, 
probably enforced even. The only reason for opt-in ARC is so we don't pollute 
TObject but it still doesn't mean that  you should be adding this in the middle 
of class trees.

Here is the bigger problem:

var
  list: TObjectList;

procedure HandleObject(obj: TObject);
begin
   // the list now stores the class but it's lost ref-counting because it was 
cast to TObject
   list.Add(obj);
end;

var
  obj: TTestSub;
begin
  HandleObject(obj);
end;

or

var
  obj: TObject;
begin
  // we  lost ref counting now!
  obj := TTestSub.Create;
  HandleObject(obj);
end;

Once you cast away from your managed class type things fall apart. Records aid 
this by not allowing casting but you could enforce some kinds of checks for 
managed classes if you wanted to. Doesn't seem like a deal breaker to me if you 
add new type rules for passing/assigning.

Regards,
        Ryan Joseph

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